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Don’t watch C4’s coverage since I lost my analogue signal but would have thought the racing should be on C4 rather than More4 until the analogue signal fully ceases as C4 is paid for coverage by racing. Will the athletics be paying C4 for coverage?
No, astonishingly the BBC got outbid. They’ve just spent hundreds of millions building facilities in Salford including moving the entire sports department up there & yet in the last year they’ve lost this, the Paralympics, Masters golf & Formula 1. Then there’s the things they don’t even bother bidding for because they’ve got no chance.
Maybe it will get to the stage where racing will pay the BBC to cover racing on the basis that they need the money more!
I’d have a showcase race every other Saturday rather than every single Saturday.
I think there are too many races that the authorities would like us to consider as ‘showcase’ but for me the flat season hits a flat spot in August.
Does the Ebor Festival really capture the public imagination? I’d keep it in the week.
Telling everyone that races are ‘showcase’ when they aren’t doesn’t do racing any favours.
And from ten minutes on Google, the opposition in Victoria is alot more influential & shouts much louder than the opposition here.
Depends what you read, and where. Here’s something closer to the perilous truth of the matter than hopeful Victoria Racing PR:
http://steeplechasing.wordpress.com/201 … o-we-have/
Steeplechasing
‘s "what chance do we have?" byline is fair comment.
Yes Pinza, I read that. I read it directly from the Herald Sun website. Like I said, ten minutes on Google. That’s what I meant by ‘the opposition in Victoria is alot more influential & shouts louder’ I meant the Aussie RSPCA & the Aussie Greens.
But here’s the thing, I also read back in 2009 that jumps racing in Victoria was going to be banned. Then on horseracingkills.com I read that they’re not going to. That website also makes it sound like Racing Victoria suspended it as opposed to an actual ‘ban’
In short Pinza, I did a bit of research, look at sources that both support jumping & those that want to see it banned.
What I didn’t do is try & twist everything round to make it fit my own blinkered view.
If you were talking about ‘chip chip chipping away’ at jumps racing in the UK, then that argument has been put down. There is more jumps racing now and, as it’s summer jumping, on more dangerous ground than ever before. That is a fact. The popularity of foxhunting is irrelevant. Why? Because hunting is still allowed, only the quarry has changed.
And then you say that you were actually talking about ‘chip chipping away’ at the Grand National. And as you said so yourself, FOR TWENTY YEARS. And in all that time, all they’ve done is filled in a couple of ditches, lowered the fences by a matter of inches & built some run off areas. It’s still the same distance & they still need to jump the same number of fences.
Still, you keep your blinkers on, keep convincing yourself that NH racing is doomed if that’s what makes you happy.
They’re trying to attract football fans and football fans love a league table.
Although I’m actually interested this year, been following De Sousa for ages.
By the way:
Remember that ban on NH racing in Victoria that some people on here have mentioned?
– Prize money up in 2011
– More races in 2011 than in 2010
– Two courses resumed jumps racing after a one year & three year absence respectively."Prize money has been increased by over 16 percent and we are committed to providing a solid foundation for hurdle racing to prosper over the next three years and for steeplechase racing to secure its future with a successful season."
And from ten minutes on Google, the opposition in Victoria is alot more influential & shouts much louder than the opposition here.
Pinza, did you say ‘they’ve been chipping away at NH for twenty years’ or something along those lines?
And in those twenty years has the number of jumps meetings increased or decreased?
A mate of mine has won two grand on Treasure Beach since I told him it was an each way cert for the Derby.
I’ve won barely a bean!
Someone earlier described altering the National course as ‘a knee jerk reaction’
And I suppose these ‘jumps racing is doomed’ posts aren’t a knee jerk reaction then?
As if calls to have it banned are anything new. Calls to have dog racing banned have been around for a similarly long time – Animal Aid station campaigners outside every greyhound meeting every day and it makes not a scrap of difference. No-one pays any attention at all.
I’d give odds of 1/6 that when the first major revision of Becher’s took place, someone gave jumps racing twenty years to live – a revision that took place 21 years ago.
Corm, I’m sorry to have given offence; but it you really believe that "the welfare of the horse has to come first" in the Grand National, then I think my argument as to the course you need to take (and the racecourse you need to close) is irrefutable.
The welfare of the horse absolutely needs to come first. Ban National Hunt racing and not just one or two horses die but all of them do.
How come no-one ever makes that argument? If you want horse racing banned then you support the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of animals.
No-one brought up Animal Aid until Pinza did.
They get their moment in the limelight once a year, whenever the supporters of racing or the participants in racing bring them up, that is true appeasement. Giving them credence where they have none.
Pinza may be correct however, these changes to the national fences could very well be the start of a slippery slope towards the end of National Hunt racing. Though they’ll have to chip chip chip away with more vigour than that before it happens in our lifetime.
‘ The main car park is free at all fixtures except on weekend and Bank Holidays. Jump fixtures and summer evenings there is a charge of £5 per vehicle however there is free parking available.’
In fairness, one of the races was in the evening! Kempton would be better off sticking to evening fixtures.
what the hell is a pregnant women working with horses for? if a horse kicked her then she would of sued him for losing her baby i agree she should have lost her job for safety reasons . and with money tight these days how can he pay her while shes off and pay a new person to take her place everyone who works in racing should be self employed to stop all this
crap
I’m assuming she wasn’t pregnant when she took the job.
As for sacking her because she’s pregnant, well I’m afraid the law is pretty clear on that one. ‘Money is tight these days’ is no excuse and rightly so.
I don’t think stable staff could be self employed by the way. Owners enter into contracts with trainers, if they staff were all self employed, I’m pretty sure the owners would have to enter into contracts with all of them.
The story doesn’t specify when exactly Gosden found out she was pregnant either. I only bring that up because if it’s within the first 12 weeks, you normally wouldn’t tell your employer because that’s when most miscarriages happen.
The irony of my Southwell example is that the course is flat as a pancake with boring brush fences. If you get fatalities on a course like that, is that not to suggest that fatalities will happen whatever they do?
Good point.
Of course, the extra factor at Southwell is that the horses that run there are in the main, not very good.
For me, I’ll accept the changes for next year & save my despair for when the RSPCA demand more changes until it becomes a Gold Cup for handicappers. I suspect they might.
There’s no way they can really win on this one.
They could either have left things the way they were, altered the fences or changed the conditions (smaller fields & earlier in the year)
If they’d done the latter, the outcry from the racing public would be little different. Of course, they’d never reduce the field because the bookies would never allow it. And they can’t run it earlier in the year lest the meeting comes up too quickly after Cheltenham.
If it had been me, I would’ve told everyone I was altering the fences & then not have done. If people find it so abhorrent, they won’t be watching will they?!
Seriously though, of course it cheapens the race doing this but it’s not exactly a race for the Grade One horses anyway.
I agree with whoever it was said there should be more trials. Certainly, all horses should be required to have completed at least one circuit of the fences if you ask me.
No she wasn’t a genius.
She was a top drawer jazz/pop vocalist with an outstanding team of musicians, writers & producers behind her.
My worry is that the way she got to being a star, genuine artists may not get that chance anymore. A fine debut album that sold next to nothing first time around but the label stuck with her & everyone got their reward.
You’ve got to sell well straight away or your out these days.
