[Richie]

Modification to criterion number 4 above.
If no horse has an OR, then RPR WILL NO LONGER BE USED.
This system will require the selection to have an OR.

[Richie]

Results For Thursday 02 Jul. 09
· Acting Elegant 3/1JF. 5th -1pt
· Dabbers Ridge 11/8F. 1st +1.38pt

Balance on day +0.38pt

Overall Balance +0.38pt

Selections For Friday 03 July 09
· Beverley 6:50 Arizona John.

[Richie]

Artemis. As I understand it Mark’s system plays up to 10 iterations which means his bank is £5115. However, I stand to be corrected.
As for “stop at a winner” bets; most bookies I use still cater for them in their rules (look under conditional bets, as Wallace pointed out). However, even to small stakes, if you do this bet a few times in a row, with the same shop, they tend to not like it, even though your daily profit might be negative (e.g.: odds on winner) or very small.
Contrary to your opinion, I believe that, “IF YOU CAN GET ON”, this is the only sensible way to do this bet, as it removes the clashing of times problem. However, I doubt if any bookies would accept Marks £5000 up front. They don’t take my measly £300 after a few consecutive days, which I think is absolutely outrageous.

Regards
Richie

[Richie]

Thanks for the tip Matron. However, I think Bet Trader only do 50p minimum but I shall check it out. My starting minimum is 30p. 50p would take my start bank up to £511.5, which is more than I plan to risk at the moment.
Seagull I shall send you a personal message as you suggested.

[Richie]

Hi Seagull. First I should explain that I started following Mark’s system as an experimental pastime to very low stakes. I first used the high street bookies. But discovered very early on that when races clash, as they often do, it becomes a nightmare. I don’t know how Mark gets around that one. My solution was to stick to the system but back both races in order of off times. This maybe risky, but hey, an element of risk is intrinsic to any form of speculation. Anyway for me the bookies made it all to hasty and frantic on some days. Moreover, my preferred starting stake was below their “per slip” minimum. So what I did was to do this bet as a “stop at a winner” bet. This meant investing the entire stake on one betting slip but doubling the unit stake after each loser. The bet terminates after any winner. You have to write out all the race times for every meeting in the correct order also. However I found that the bookie staff tend to get very busy when they realize the coup and it’s not easy to continue.
Although I am a serious punter this was all very experimental and I ran it along side my regular punting. My unit stake was only 30p, which comes to £306.90 per slip.
The way in which I continue with this experiment is like this. I have set an additional Betfair account in my wife’s name.
On Betfair, if you want to stake below £2, ask for odds of 1000 about the fav for a £2 stake it will not be taken. Then add the amount that you actually want to wager by changing the £2 to say £2.50. Betfair automatically splits this into 2 bets one at £2 and one at 50p. You then cancel the £2 bet leaving you with a 50p bet at 1000. Then just change the odds to something more realistic, 2.8 say, and it gets matched!
The only problem with this is that I have to revert to the old way if there is a clash of off times by backing in both races. However, Betfair does give you the very useful option of being able to back in running.
From my work so far I would say the best way to do this bet, “IF YOU CAN GET ON”, is by the “stop at a winner bet on the high street” This avoids the problem of clashing off times. However, it can only work to a small unit stake, so if you want to go large you would have to prepare your slips early and use more than on bookie.
I have decided that if Mark doesn’t go bust by Christmas then I will consider giving this a serious go on Betfair.
I am still trying to solve the problem of clashing off times on Betfair. Any tips?

[Richie]

Please note that on the 12th October Halles Comet won the 10th race of the day and not the 8th. I have been following this thread using smaller stakes and would have been wiped out in the 10th race if not for Halles Comet . Mark’s bank should now be over 17 Grand.

[Richie]

Between the 22 and the 23 May I think you may have dropped a grand in error on your "any fav" calculation.
Keep up this interesting thread.

[Richie]

Nick,<br>You are a diamond geezer!!!

Thanks for taking the time to give me food for thought.

[Richie]

Thanks for responding Nick.<br>But most of the horses in these types of races have very little, if any, racecourse form to go on.<br>Do you mean by "the handful" with chances mainly comes down to breeding? This topic really interests me.

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