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Well it is a Murdoch paper, so could be all crap
But in all seriousness, it’s him lol.
I remember thinking at the time it seemed odd, but since I already had my moneys on I wasn in a rather dismissive mood
And just on the race, I do think SYT over raced a bit early on and also ryan moore perhaps went early. And if Aiden O’brien is, god forbid, been honest about the fitness then i’m willing to say he has enough excuses.
Aidan O’Brien.
"But we haven’t stepped up his work because we feel he is doing it comfortably and doing it within himself. We are very happy with how he is going at the moment.
"As I said, we haven’t done that much with him in training because we feel he is such a natural horse.
"We are just hoping we have done enough with him for Royal Ascot. I’m confident we have."
Before the race talking to an aussie paper. Perhaps worth taking into consideration, perhaps not. Just thought i’d point it out.
Here’s the link btw,
Heh, that’s rubbish Mr Wilson. Frankel/SYT is the smart bet for Ascot, anyone who isn’t blinded by an attitude of anti-SYT (I suspect driven by a disregard for australian racing) can see that a mile away. That’s not to say he will certainly win, only a die hard aussie fan would say that, but it is still a good bet.
I think it’s a decent bet, already took him myself on an aussie site (it’s already NR/NB on there). Took him with Frankel (also NR/NB) and got relatively close to evens (1.86). For me it’s the bet of the carnival, gonna be dissapointed (for reasons more than money) if SYT doesn’t hold up his leg of the bet :p
I know it’s probably been said to death, but frankel/SYT multi is the best bet at Ascot for mine.
I think you’ll get evens in brit atm, I got 1.86 here on an aussie site, but thats NR/NB. For some reason it had NR/NB market before all british sites.
at least get your facts right if you’re gonna use my kingdom of fife / glass harmonium as a comparison lol
They were incredibly weak group 1s/2s. None of the horses who SYT beat last spring have been present in this autumn carnival (except shoot out, but everyone would acknowledge he’s not what he was).
Writing off star witness because he didn’t dominate in aus may not be the sharpest decision. If you believe the hype about black caviar, then don’t write off star witness.
Can some british people help me out here btw, when they say he’ll go to prince of wales next then hopefully king george then arc (pretty sure I read that).
Do they mean he will literally go from king george to the arc? Becos from what I can gather the gap is from july to october, not really sure how preperations work here, so would he run other smaller races between july and october?
That’s right, apparently giving your opinion is now pushy and arrogant.
As for the after-timing stuff, well sorry mate. Next time I plan to back a horse from my own country at 1.16 (thats what I got on aussie site) i’ll make a thread on here specifically to let you know. Then again I won’t need to, since I already said in the last post i’m gonna back him in the pow and kg / arc.
Can’t knock him for the win, barely got wound up. So for all you people (presumably not aussie’s) quoting these different lengths which other horse beat his competitors by, you’re wasting your time.
And for all the people (presumably aussie’s) saying he’s gonna wipe the floor, ease up a bit.
I think he’ll win the prince of wales stakes and i’ll be backing him again in that with some hefty money, just like I did today and in the mooresbridge.
But once it’s out to 12 furlongs I think i’ll be much more reserved in my betting, although I will still take him.
i’m no fan of comparing times, but if you must.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Wales’s_Stakes
You’ll find all the winning times of that there.
Now here’s 3 races of almost identical distance (about 12-20meters difference) of so you think.
http://www.horseracinginfo.com.au/horse … stakes.php
http://www.horseracinginfo.com.au/horse … stakes.php
http://www.horseracinginfo.com.au/horse … -plate.php
Note: You have to scroll down a tiny bit on all pages.
Whobegotyou who so you think beat home in the cox plate is a solid horse, never runs a bad race – Zipping too has had a lot of high finishes in cox plate’s and MC’s. Whobegotyou’s best decent is a mile though, i’ll concede that. I should also probably point out that because whobegotyou runs epicly from behind I enjoy watching him race, so perhaps i’m a bit bias toward him!
I’m not gonna claim i’ve watched much uk racing, so please correct me if i’m wrong here.
But from the few races I have seen (frankel’s demolition in the guineas, harbingers demolition in the george/elizabeth and SYT’s win) it doesn’t look to me like they were eased up much (if at all). Although the camera does go way way out at the end which is new to me. But if this is true, it’d be wise to keep that in mind when saying SYT needs to have won by so many (ie 10) lengths in australian racing, because in aussie horses get eased up if they’re far out in front. Happened to SYT a few times in his 10f wins in aus.
And more specifically on SYT’s first run. I’m not sure anyone should really have changed their opinion because of that run. All it really means is the change of conditions didn’t ruin him. But whether he matches up against the top euro horses or not remains as unclear as ever. I duno how you can sit here and so boldly state one way or another that he is gonna smash workforce or vice versa, seems crazy to me. Presumably it’s because aussies on here are talking him up because they think aussies are the best – and I suspect many brits rejecting the horse on the grounds that they think no aussie middle distance horse can be good. Either way, crazy stuff.
