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Australian racing is all about the turn of foot, because pretty much every race is run at a canter more or less. So in aussie sectional times are certainly helpful.
Can someone explain to me why when everyone was talking about syt the majority of people claimed he wasn’t so great because of sri putra. As in the majority of people were using the run of the poorly rated horse to measure it by and ignoring runs of better horses because they were supposedly below par.
Yet with frankel it’s the other way round, the minority are saying this – whereas the majority are using the run of canford and ignoring the run of the poorly rated horse.
have to like workforce i think, sna has too many question marks and there seems to be good evidence rewilding needs longer breaks to run at his best.
seems a pretty open race to me, also not really sure how anyone can completely write off star witness
European horse racing seems far too dominated by particular stables/owners to me. Surely the best race to see would be all the best horses races against each other. I’m not saying it works perfectly like this in aussie, but jesus christ some of this stuff over here just seem ridiculous.
My point was misty for me was beaten 7 1/2 lengths in the oaks only to line up 20 days later and beat midday by 6L (over 10F). So maybe SNA’s form isn’t that strong? I’m actually asking rather than saying since I just haven’t followed any of their other races.
Somehow I think a maiden arc or breeders cup may look a tad better than a 3rd cox plate. On the other hand, if they genuinely think he won’t see out 12F then maybe it’s a chance.
Didn’t see/read about the race, but seems midday got smashed by play misty. Any reasonable explanation for this? Considering it was SNA’s win over midday which boosted him up, seems like it could be relevant.
Incidentally as a SYT fan who has backed him in every race so far I must say i’m unconvinced he’ll stay a strong 12F. At ascot he got done in a strongly run 10F race, although I do believe there were legit excuses. However, i’m not sure those excuses were enough to allow him to run out 12F, but I guess only time will (may) tell, although I wouldn’t be surprised if he avoided 12F races altogether.
@ JG. For a minute I thought some facts were gonna trump my memory, but then you said check punters paradise – which just happens to be the site I checked (to verify my memory) before I posted
http://puntersparadise.com.au/horses/So … ink_50127/
There’s the link for anyone who is interested, click on form to see it, mackinnon is his 2nd most recent race. I don’t usually quote the track ratings from it becos it can be wrong on occasion, but JG man c’mon – at least learn to read. On punters paradise it clearly says the mackinnon was a dead track.
I love SYT, but you just go around lying about him. This is @ JG.
The mackinnon was on a dead track mate. I remember derby day very well, the track started off as good in the morning and it rained all day. By the time the derby was run it was about heavy, but when the mackinnon was run it was still dead, tending towards soft I think. Which translated into euro stuff is probably still almost classed as good.
And just as a general opinion. I think people get too caught in looking at a specific other horse to spin their point of view. In the POW everyone ignored planteur and just said sri putra was releveant.
And I really think if that sandown stuff about not winning by as large of margins is true then it’s worth taking into account. And do you also consider the fact that maybe Sri Putra improved too? For me you need more than just a single horse to draw any serious conclusion.
Heard the race callers say afterwards that you never (or rarely) see races at sandown where they smash by massive margins. So perhaps the 5 1/2L on Sri Putra here is in fact a more impressive gap than 6L in the POW? Could someone with more knowledge comment on this please.
lol if confront doesn’t set the pace it would be 1 of the dumbest things ever, naturally SYT would win then. I hope/think he’ll get over the line anyway, but it’ll be very close.
@ reet hard, probably worth noting when he won in australia from the front that the races weren’t run at any great pace, so obviously it’s tough (for any horse) to catch him in that situation when he leads a moderately run race, his turn of foot + the slight lead is too much.
Bugarra you’re starting to make me think these stereotypes people have about aussie’s are actually true.
I’m still a SYT fan and think everything went against him in the POW and I think he’ll do workforce in over 10f.
But to say that Aussie racing is superior (in terms of horse ability in a general sense) is ridiculous. Unless you’re talking specifically about sprinters, which you’re not.
But people like Mr Wilson are wrong too, it’s definetly not that bad and MOST top horses in Australia (more joyous,whobegotyou at a mile for example) would compete with the best in Europe, but probably not win.
