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after a poor first few days betting had a couple of winners today and the place pot.

Big thanks to Carlisle

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me too

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Yep everything is working ok.

For a typical race would you complete the sheet for every runner and then select the top 5/6 from the figures? Once this has been completed would you then test these 5/6 against other factors GDC etc as well as the information about winning at the class/distance?

Incidentally when you rate the horse in your key trend ss what does RPT =128 mean and do you only use 9 and 1 as values.

Hope this makes sense?

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plenty of winners within my shortlists today, time to re-evaluate and see where I went wrong

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CT feel for you on that race, hope you didn’t have Skhilling spirit @ York like me?

Thirds Set was impressive and I liked the look of him this morning but I thought that he would be better of the mile, in time it may prove his better distance but in a rather sluggish race I think that he did pretty well

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CT,

Although my figures are little different from yours I’d have to go with Wise Dennis. LTO he edged right and hopefully the blinkers will keep that focus this time. He has better form over the distance than Ordance Row and the fact that ordnace row does not like the quicker ground and by 3.45 it will be a lot dryer than now then I’d have to pick Wise Dennis.

Best of the rest Giganticus (up too much in the weights), king of Argos (ground against) and Third Set (better of 8f).

Probably all wrong but trying VDW for the first time today

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Hi carlisle,

That would be great going to have my proper first day using the method today. Shall I’ll PM you my email address.

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short list of 2 for the first at ascot – Baltic King and Balthazaars gift, went for Baltic king

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Formath,

I had Shaker , Muthabara and Gypsy boy, ended up going for Shaker

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Spranger how are you getting on with your VDW methodolgy are you finding it complicated or are you having a nice stream of winners?

Are you using a staking plan in combination with VDW?

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Sorry Guys I actaully meant 2% I was getting a bit carried away

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Thanks Snow,
i was thinking of using a £100 bank and 20% stake, just whilst I get used to a new method and plan.

Does anyone else on the forum know where I can get a decent spreadsheet for this plan? Or would any of you recommend a different plan?

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Hi Snow,

thanks for this it make more sense now (first time I’ve looked at a staking plan). Obviously you have some experience in this area, any ideas what this plan is called or how to do a simple spreadsheet on it?

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having quickly revisted the staking plan I am a little confused by stake 3 and why the debit stands at 9. Is this 5 + 3 + 1? but why is stake 4 in credit and debit?

Sorry if I sound completely thick

Does this staking plan have name or a spreasheet to help place the correct bet? and if someone was to use it what size bank would someone require?

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Formath I have read your article on VDW with great interest. My head hurts due to the amount of content and I feel that I am a little confused with the whole situation but with a little time I hope to get there! I think the best way is to look at each issue in isolation.

If I may I have a few intial questions?

In VDW2 it mentions a staking plan, is this the plan used when betting on the selcted horses? And would I be right in thinking that the staking plan could be used over a number of days depending on the type of race available?

In VDW3 it talks about narrowing the field. If I look at the 1530 from Yarmouth (most expensive race) this afternoon then the first 6 in the betting would be. The last three placed finishes are in brackets, do I not allocate points for a ‘0’ finish? and what if there are only 2 finishing places as per connect?
Don Pele (11)
Obe Gold (16)
Everygrainofsand (9)
Adantino (7)
Figaro Flyer (12) and
Connect (13)

This would leave Don Pele, Everygrainofsand and Adantino.

Adantino has no previous despite a class2 victory a few races ago. 33/1 last time out – Dismiss.
Don Pele ran on in its last outing but carried 8-13 to finish 3rd, carrying 9-2 today
Everygrainofsand, finished 4 when bumped carried 9-6 carrying 8-13 today

Based on this my selection would be Everygrainofsand. And as if by magic it won at 6/1.

Would this be correct or have I missed something as surely it cant be that simple???

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Guys, thanks for the advice, I think that Im going to have a serious look into some of the systems mentioned on here. I will probbay need a degree to understand some of them but never mind I can but try

Grand Lodge what is Jock Binghams’ method?

Formath can I ask why you are no longer a true follower of the VDW method?

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gg.com also do an email reminder service and you can filter you selection.

Thanks for the advice DJ, I suppose in some fashion I already look at after the race but I never really use it to any advantage the next time. Mainly becuse I cant track every single horse that I watch (if that makes sense)

I tend to do well in non handicap races so might try and focus my energies on this area. I can spend a couple of hours looking at form on a saturday but to no avail.

I think I need to work a lot smarter and choose carefully

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