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  • in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1448259
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    Cheers GT

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1448254
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    Masar (1.96) is being well-backed GT and Mirage Dancer (4.20) drifting. Would you advise top up bets based on this info?

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1448247
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    Doh!!! Toyed with a place lay as well

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1448244
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    Layed Visinari at 1.75

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1448198
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    GT, I know you like Visinari but is he too short at around 2.00

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1447290
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    Thanks GT. I should have mentioned that I have not already backed Madmoon. So I will take your advice and lay AVB to cover stakes on Broome and Rakan as that appears to be the better value option. GL :good:

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1447244
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    GT, is Madmoon still value at 3/1 or would you advise laying AVD at around 11/8

    in reply to: 2019 TRF Flat Ten To Follow Competition #1447072
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    Hi GT, please find my 2nd sub.

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    in reply to: 2019 TRF Flat Ten To Follow Competition #1446783
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    Cheers for the update GT

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1446657
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    Is the place lay of Emblazoned to reduce liabilities on the race or a value call?

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1446649
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    Thanks for the update, GT :good:

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1446436
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    Thanks GT, apologies for gatecrashing your thread with my idle ramblings. The W/O FAV market is one I have meant to look at in more detail but have never taken time to look at the maths involved.

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1446400
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    A SLIGHTLY EASIER METHOD

    A = FAV’S BETTING PERCENTAGE. IN OUR EXAMPLE 6/4 = 40%
    B = HORSES ODDS X1. IN OUR EXAMPLE 7/1 X1 = 8.00

    (100% – A) X B

    (100%-40%) X 8.00 = 0.60 X 8.00 = 4.80

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1446397
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    OK THANKS :good:

    SO IF I TRY YOU TURN THAT INTO A BASIC FORMULA, WHERE

    A = FAV’S BETTING PERCENTAGE. IN OUR EXAMPLE 6/4 = 40%
    B = HORSES FAIR CHANCE BETTING PERCENTAGE. IN OUR EXAMPLE 7/1 = 12.50%

    FORMULA BECOMES

    ___1___ X B
    (100-A)

    ___1___ X .125 0.2083 = 4.80
    0.60

    WHICH IS WHAT I SOMEHOW GOT EARLIER

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1446371
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    IS THIS ABOUT RIGHT?

    DECIMALS ODDS X (100% – BETTING% OF THE MARKET FAV) = W/O FAV ODDS

    EG 6/4 FAV AND CALCULATING W/O FAV ODDS FOR A 7/1 SHOT

    6/4 40%
    7/1 = 8.00 = 12.5%

    8.00 X (100% – 40%) = 8 X 0.60 4.80

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1446370
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    GT, is there a mathematical method to calculate odds for horses in Without Fav markets? I presume something like Rule 4 or even better using the betting percentage from the current Betfair odds

    So for an easy example

    Evens Fav (50%)

    A 3/1 shot becomes Evens fav

    Though I am a bit unsure how to calculate other examples

    in reply to: Ginger's Winners #1446258
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    Why have you gone off Japan and topped up more on Pondus?

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