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Sat 16th Nov<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>12.25 Wetherby-Militaire(6)…………………Lost(2nd)<br>4.00 Cheltenham-Spectroscope(6)……….Lost(another NH casualty)

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(Edited by kersly at 11:24 am on Nov. 17, 2002)

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Friday 15th Nov<br>Non Hcp Flat(AW)<br>2.45 Wolvs-Heidleburg………….Won 11/8<br>3.20 Wolvs-Sandrone……………Lost

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(Edited by kersly at 4:05 pm on Nov. 15, 2002)

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Thursday 14th Nov<br>Better late than never!!<br>Flat Non Hcp<br>1.40 Ling-Tirailleur(5)…Lost

Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>2.30 Taunton-Pepe Galvez(7)……………….Won 11/8<br>3.20 Ludlow-Duke of Buckingham(5)……..Lost<br>_____________________________________________<br>For reference only<br>Nat Hunt Hcp<br>1.20 Ludlow-River Styx(6)………………Lost<br>2.20 Ludlow-Restless Wind(7)………..Lost<br>1.30 Taunton-Final Lap(5)………………Lost

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(Edited by kersly at 10:40 am on Nov. 15, 2002)

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Wed 13th Nov<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>1.00 Kelso-Zamat(6 inc p/d no latest Ts)2m.5f E Nov H….Won 10/11<br>1.30 Kelso-Moss Harvey(7)3m1f D Nov Ch…Won 2/5<br>3.30 Newb-Tagar(7)2m3f D Nov H…Lost(3rd)

November Summary up to and inc 13th.<br>Flat Non Hcp……………….+7.60<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp………..+3.28<br>Combined…………………..+10.68<br>_____________________________________________<br>For reference<br>Flat Hcp………………………+5.50<br>Nat Hunt Hcp……………….-2.00<br>Combined……………………+3.50<br>_____________________________________________<br>kersly

(Edited by kersly at 6:17 pm on Nov. 13, 2002)

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Tuesday 12th Nov

Nat Hunt Non Hcp

12.55 Sedg-Iron Express(6 inc p/d no adj TS)2m5f E Nov Ch…Lost(3rd 3/1)<br>1.15 Southwell-Keltic Heritage(6 inc p/d no adjTS)3m.5f E Nov Ch…Lost-another NH casualty

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(Edited by kersly at 1:31 pm on Nov. 12, 2002)

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Mon 11th Nov<br>Flat Non HCp(AW)<br>3.25 Wolvs-Indian Steppes(5)…………Lost

Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>12.45 Carlisle-Royal Emperor(7)………Won 9/4<br>1.00 Font-Bhutan(5)………………………Lost<br>_____________________________________________<br>For reference only<br>Nat Hunt Hcp<br>2.40 Font-Courage Under Fire(6)……………Won 2/1<br>_____________________________________________<br>After racing on Mon 11th Nov<br>Flat Non Hcp(+7.60)<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp(+4.98)<br>Combined(+12.58)

For reference<br>Hcp Flat(+5.50)<br>Hcp Nat Hunt(-2.00)

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(Edited by kersly at 5:01 pm on Nov. 11, 2002)

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Hi Dave.<br>A splendid read.The "mythical Dutchmans"findings have for many years been viewed as the possibly attainable "Holy Grail". Personally I find the whole approach far too complicated.In saying that there are vital pieces of advice and guidance that could prove beneficial..Do you think that VDW was an invention of the paper to stimulate discussion?<br>However hard I try I cannot come to terms with staking plans,it dilutes the selection procedure and hides a multitude of sins.I much prefer accountability to level stakes only.I dont think there is one correct way of trying to find winning selections,I believe an  open mind,stats,adaptions of ideas all play a part in trying to achieve success.I like looking for angles that may be original,there is no certainty of success in this game but I do enjoy the challenge.Ive had many failures along the way plus a few rewarding efforts, a couple of which Ive operated for years.<br>A fascinating read Dave it brought back memories of VDW,s original posts.Do you remember the old pocket style "Handicap Book"?I wish I could view some copies again,also the old Sporting Investor now Im becoming too nostalgic.

Good Luck-kersly

(Edited by kersly at 1:19 am on Nov. 10, 2002)

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Sat 9th Nov<br>Non Hcp Flat<br>12.55 Donc-Marinas Charm(5)………….Won 7/2<br>1.25 Donc-Aegean Magic(5)…………….Lost

Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>1.10 Chep-Gentle Rivage(7)………………..Lost<br>1.45 Sand-Nas Na Riogh(6)…………………Won 4/7<br>_____________________________________________<br>Reference only<br>Handicap Selections<br>Flat<br>1.55 Donc-Impersonator…………………Won 11/2<br>Nat Hunt<br>1.35 Winc-Cape Stormer…………………Lost<br>2.15 Sand-Roberty Bob…………………..Lost

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(Edited by kersly at 8:15 pm on Nov. 9, 2002)

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Friday 8th Nov<br>1.00 Donc-Shelini(5)…………….Won 3/1<br>2.10 Donc-Pole Star(7)…………Won 11/10

Update for November following racing on Friday 8th Nov.

Flat Non Hcp(+6.10)<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp(+4.16)<br>Combined………….(+10.26)

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(Edited by kersly at 3:48 pm on Nov. 8, 2002)

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Hi Dave,<br>I restrict my betting to Non Hcps both Flat and Nat Hunt although I am recording Hcp qualifiers.

Using the RP paper version.<br>If you are prepared to accept both Postmark and Topspeed have some value the thinking is that a combination of both of them may produce a sufficient percentage of winners to produce a profit.

A selection must be top rated latest and adjusted by Postmark and Topspeed.There are four ratings the selection must have three of them.It must not be bettered by another horse in either latest or adjusted ratings.These are basic selections.For future reference I am noting if the horse is also the Postdata selection and also if it has the "best rating".<br>Todays selections;<br>1.20 Haydock-Sportsman is top" latest""best"and "adjusted" by Postmark also is top rated "latest"and "best"by Topspeed.No other horse surpasses these ratings.In this case it is not the Postdata selection.At the moment I ignore this.<br>3.20 Hayd-Gardor has 6 positives the one missing is"latest"topspeed.No other horse is higher in any of the ratings.

October showed a slight loss just over a point while September had a 30+ points profit.<br>The flat had a poor record in October,maybe take this into account in future.<br>So as you can see information is being built up.It may be that horses with 6/7 positives are the ones to concentrate on.<br>I now ignore horses quoted at less than 1/2 and more than 8/1.<br>Also building up information on the best type of races for this approach at the moment all non handicaps are considered,<br>Hope that helps.

kersly<br>

(Edited by kersly at 3:15 pm on Nov. 7, 2002)

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Thursday 7th Nov<br>1.20 Hayd-Sportsman….Lost<br>3.20 Hayd-Gardor……….Lost

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<br>(Edited by kersly at 3:13 pm on Nov. 7, 2002)<br>

(Edited by kersly at 11:28 am on Nov. 8, 2002)

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Wednesday 6th Nov<br>Non Hcp Flat<br>1.10 Muss-Zafine…………………..Won 5/2

Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>12.45-Aquarius………………………..Lost<br>2.05 Kempt-Iblis Rochelais………..Lost

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(Edited by kersly at 6:58 pm on Nov. 6, 2002)

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Tuesday 5th Nov<br>Flat Non Hcp<br>12.30 Catt-Gladys Alyward……………Won 3/1<br>1.30 Catt-Little Venice………………….Lost

Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>1.20 Folk-Bee An Bee-f/c a bit high…………Lost<br>1.40 Exeter-Robber Baron…………………….Won 4/6<br>3.10 Exeter-Bow Strada………………………..Lost

Hcps-Nat Hunt<br>3.40 Exeter-Lord Seamus………………………Lost

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(Edited by kersly at 12:13 pm on Nov. 6, 2002)

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Monday 4th Nov<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>I missed this one earlier I saw it when it was too late to post.:( <br>2.30 Plummpton-Capriolo…..Won 5/2

Flat selections continue to disappoint.

Nat Hunt Hcp<br>1.00 Plumpton-Wagner(6 no adj Ts)2m5f F Cond Jock Hcp H……….Lost

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(Edited by kersly at 4:06 pm on Nov. 4, 2002)

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Sat Nov 2nd<br>Flat Non Hcp<br>2.30 Newm-Beauchamp Pilot…….Lost<br>3.05 Newm-Abundant………………Lost<br>7.00 Wolvs-Raymonds Pride……..Lost

Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>12.50 Ascot-Sharmy…………………Lost<br>4.05 Ascot-Star Protector…………Won 4/1<br>3.20 Wetherby-Brother Joe………Won 5/1

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(Edited by kersly at 11:21 am on Nov. 4, 2002)

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Thursday 31st Oct<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>1.00 Sedg-The Nomad……………….Won 11/10<br>1.10 Strat-Blackchurch Mist………..Lost(2nd)<br>2.00 Strat-Bunratty Castle…………Won 10/11

Final record for October:<br>Flat Non Hcp………………..(-1.41)<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp…………(+0.43)

Flat Hcp……………………….(+3.50)<br>Nat Hunt Hcp………………..(+0.50)

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(Edited by kersly at 1:08 pm on Nov. 1, 2002)

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Wed 30th Oct<br>Nat Hunt Non Hcp<br>1.30 Taunton-Paco Venture(7)3m.5f D Nov H…Won 5/6<br>3.15 Taunton-Simber Hill(7)3m D Nov Ch…Won 4/5

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