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The Winner Takes It All, The Name Of The Game and S.O.S. the top 3.May 16, 2021 at 12:05 in reply to: Suggestions wanted…. re: the history of UK/IRE horse racing #1541222
Jade, I’d also recommend John Pinfold’s books on Aintree: ‘Gallant Sport’, ‘Aintree: The History Of The Racecourse’ & ‘An Aintree Dynasty’ all available on the Book Depositry. There’s also my half-done website (work is continuing!): https://www.grandnationalultimatehistory.com/
It certainly seems easier than what I remember and lacks tension so ditched the rest of the episode and returned to watching the snooker! Evidently the woman contestant tripped and went arse over tit on the way back to her chair but wasn’t hurt and they refilmed that part!!
Well, the Mastermind questions seem to have become so long-winded each is akin to a chapter! Generally they were easy and the only one I would’ve passed on was the runner-up’s jockey in 1938 which in the general context of the posers was rather obscure.
Thanks for your kind words Gamble. My favourite decade is/was the 70s – until Punk and Thatcher came along!
Yeats, maybe I’ll watch it via the iPlayer then I can pause it for thinking time as I haven’t revised for it!
Marlingford, thanks – yes it is. I’m 5 years in and it will probably take another 5 to finish. Anyone who wants to see the work in progress, the site appears about 8th from the top in Google search in response to the term “Grand National History”. I haven’t publicised it because I don’t want to get bogged down with queries before its finished.
Thanks Homer, I’ll certainly watch the show for the first time in decades!
Hi Gamble, yes I have included in my 1908 page Rubio’s origins and that he was once lent out to pull what may be more accurately described as an omnibus.
The contemporary press described Costello as Withington’s assistant and, whilst I have strived in all cases to show the actual trainer rather than the name of the person who held the licence and while Costello may have had some extra responsibility for Rubio, I’m confident that the final say on training came from Withington. Training was all a bit of a grey area though in those days and earlier. For example, Arthur Yates was responsible for many, many winners but his horses always appeared under the name of his head lad, Swatton.
In 1909 Rubio broke down upon landing at the Chair and, Bissill being a tad slow to realise, subsequently fell at the Water Jump.
De Bromhead became the second trainer to saddle both the winner and runner-up. In 1908 Fred Withington trained Rubio, the 66/1 victor, to beat stable companion Mattie Macgregor (25/1) by 10 lengths.
Rubio became the longest priced winner so far, arguably providing the biggest shock in the National to this point. Not that the relative rookie trainer was surprised, he had fancied the victor more than Mattie Macgregor and felt that stable jockey Billy Bissill had chosen to ride the wrong one. That Fred was correct proved to the benefit of debutant jockey Bryan Bletsoe (son of Bernard who had trained the 1901 winner Grudon).
None of you have named the winner: Cameron Smith!
Good short game, good Masters record and in good current form. 40/1 I believe.
Regarding Liverpool/Aintree, the course has been known by both names at least since the first running of the race that would soon become referred to as the Grand National in 1836 (perhaps a national/local scenario like Edinburgh/Musselburgh – from the early days of railways through to the present day stations serving the course usually included Aintree in their title). It may have been officially changed by the authorities from Liverpool to Aintree in the early 1990s but that is of minor import – after all these are the same authorities who insist the race began in 1839!
Ruby, I don’t honestly think those stables you mentioned have had the virus for 10 years! They and the next generation also mentioned are equally as capable as Irish trainers in training Festival winners – it is all about why the top class performers are staying in Ireland and what should be done to address this. As Cork says, British NH racing has become a second rate product and, Ian, it is for this reason a fuss should be made because as the British paying spectators & terrestrial TV viewers increasingly realise they are watching substandard fare their interest will wane and the sport will decline further and irreversibly in this country.
Hi Gamble. Have you stumbled across my (unfinished) website then? I haven’t got much done with it for six months due to the availability of so much football – but I have kicked & bricked my way through about a dozen tellies and laptops LOL
Maddy Playle’s suggestions to level the playing field (the BHA have not yet realised the urgency of the matter):
The worst renewal since Cheltenham became a Festival. Obviously no spectaors but also several small fields and the complete domination of Irish-trained horses (ideally there would be an equal balance) which rendered the British NH season a virtual irrelevance – not healthy for the future of the sport in Britain.
From this point British trainers need to send their charges to Ireland to race much more often and this would help the handicapper to be more accurate, leading to a universal British/Irish ratings system. The British government needs to intervene in some way to alter the economic forces and encourage British owners to use British trainers. There’s nothing substandard about British trainers or jockeys it is the horse stock imbalance (created by the economic forces) that is to blame. It is completely reversed from 30/40 years ago and will take some time to be equally balanced again. In the meantime, and if nothing is done, NH racing in Britain will continue to decline as we are reaching the point where the entire British programme is becoming an irrelevance for ‘big’ owners and the viewing public.