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  • in reply to: Lockinge 2011 #355436
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    I disagree strongly with all the views.Firstly Moore had DT too far off the pace and secondly his form is 1 gr1 win,2 gr2 wins,a gr3 win,4 times gr1 placed,including in two classics,and he’s beaten eight or ten gr 1 winners in those races.If thats the form of an overated horse im a monkey.When Hughes rides him hes a way better horse,and id expect that will be the case from now on as they wont run against Canford Cliffs again.

    in reply to: Every time I lump on Dick Turpin… #355430
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    Cant for the life of me understand why Moore had him so far off the pace when he always runs well when prominent.You’d wonder was it a ploy to make sure he wouldn’t be taking Canford Cliffs on again.If Hughes doesn’t ride Dick Turpin he deosn’t win.

    in reply to: 2yo Summary Thread 2011 #354859
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    Watch out for the Teofilo filly that was 2nd to Power.She’s meant to be serious.Ive heard Hannon has serious 2 year olds by Strategic Prince too.He described one as an Aeroplane!!!!!!!!!!!!

    in reply to: Lockinge 2011 #354858
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    A horse i think who was going to be a top 4yo and that is.
    JAN VERMEER.Showed speed last year and being a Montjeau you thought he stay a 1m4 but he did not. now back in trip and i hope he up with the pace like his 2yo races.No doubt he can play a big role in this race.And who knows might win it.

    Darren have you not seen Canford Cliffs or Dick Turpin race?They’ll have Jan for tea.The only way he could win this is if was the only runner :mrgreen: Its dick Turpin all the way for me.At 9/2 you break even on your ew bet at worst

    in reply to: International Stakes 2010 #312408
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    id say fist is 1 of these guys who expects stienbeck to be champion european miler this year.the facts are dick turpin has beaten canford cliffs twice,lope de vega,siyouni and makfi to name a few.if you think he isnt in the same class as canford cliffs after winning a gr1 by 4 lengths then you know nothing about the game.do you remember a horse called ravens pass who everyone said wasnt a gr1 horse or how about henry the navigator who was written off as being just a good early 2 year old.for me if dick turpin gets the extra 2 furlongs then he wins.im sure hannon will then be singing his praises once again.hed have a better chance against goldikova sunday too than paco boy

    in reply to: Irish Derby 2010 #303515
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    Cape Blanco certainly will give him a race…its not going to be a walkover for Workforce as many people think.

    Wallace Cape Blanco will never beat Workforce again over any trip! The only danger to Workforces King George victory is his stable companion Harbinger,he is a beast too,but i always think the 3yo weight allowance in the King George is generous!

    how is harbinger a beast?hes won a few gr3s and a gr2.if thats the case then delegator is a beast too

    in reply to: Irish Derby 2010 #303514
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    what are some people on here like.fact of the matter is cape blanco has been beaten once.how anyone can say he isnt a match for workforce knows nothing about racing.whos to say he wouldnt have won in epsom,the ante post king?get real and wait for the race.o brien put up the king george straight after the race.thats what competition is about.not ducking a race like stoute did with his horse.theres a list of socalled "brilliant"english derby winners that never done anything again,ie,north light and kris kin.both trained by stoute and with profiles like workforce

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