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  • in reply to: One-A-Day #49304
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    E<br>U on the funny tablets again for your toothache? Look forward to your mercurial selections – and best regards to Robocop.

    in reply to: One-A-Day #49299
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    Robotica<br>Glanced at a few of the pages shadowing your system. Looks interesting – why did you stop?

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    Alan<br>Don’t know any specialist sites I’m afraid. I’d be grateful if you’d pen me if you find one. I always use Hill’s although it only goes back a couple of months.<br>Bin57

    in reply to: The Lecture #51547
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    Mr Ed<br>Don’t knock working on the bins. It’s good money and you get flexi-time. I’m normally done by 2pm. I once worked in Crete as a binnie so I’m cultured as well.<br>There’s you knocking me for my 20 spins yet you’re happy to stop at a fiver!<br>Tell me your staking plan E.<br>E’s a good.

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    Hi Mr E<br>No, I’m not Snowman and I’m more in your camp than his (after all, I do play!) but I take what you’re saying. Unfortunately, I don’t have much time to spend in casinos. I used to. Man, I loved it. Have to satisfy myself with the online ones now (do I feel a punch coming?). Sorry, E, you’re probably a purist. I just wanna make some pocket money. <br>Sailing – I’ll definitely come back to you on the flat. "Specialise" gives me a good feeling about your abilities. Happy sailing.

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    Sailing<br>I know you’re right of course. I do tend to let the first few races pass and then go in. But we won’t debate this further because I would be a voice in the wilderness. As for form, got any suggestions? I tried looking at a dog’s 2nd best start and finish times to get more of an idea of its overall ability. That didn’t work. Tipsters are hit and miss and not much fun. Droopys worked for me for a while but there are so many of them. Any pointers would be gratefully received.<br>Bin57

    in reply to: The Lecture #51535
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    Sailing<br>To be perfectly honest with you (and I’m sure you won’t be surprised) I have absolutely no rational for arbitrarily backing one particular trap. That said, trap stats are not much help either – with say a 17% strike rate (which is pretty high) you could go for a long while without seeing your beloved number come in. Besides, how different is it to always backing a 2nd favourite? Sometimes, your number will be the outsider, sometimes the favourite. I raised it though to show some similarity of my thinking with the roulette wheel – i.e. EXPERIENCE – and I have yet to find a meeting where a number doesn’t come in within about 15 races. So, for example, at Belle Vue a number of weeks ago, I noticed that Tr6 hadn’t come in all night. I made a conscious effort to back Tr6 at the next meet (which was a morning meet). I placed £2 on the first race and doubled through the card. I didn’t get far – race 4 – £8 at 7/1. Granted, it probably more realistically would be 7/2 or 5/2 but outsiders do win (as we all know). <br>I looked for Millersfield this am. Couldn’t see it, otherwise I would have backed Tr2.<br>Brough Park and Brushwood – I’ve never backed them; they’re too early in the day for me; a mate does – he backs 6 and always comes good. He knows, I know, you know that it could all go horribly wrong. BUT IT HASN’T…yet. EXPERIENCE. William Hill’s site has got a good reults section – you can go back a number of weeks. Please prove me wrong – you may save me a lot of grief. This isn’t a soap box for me or a tip to anyone – I’m just saying, it hasn’t happened to me.<br>As a point of information, at Wimbledon last Friday, the RP tipster got 1 out of 13. <br>Happy sailing.

    in reply to: The Lecture #51533
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    Sailing<br>No I’m not that smart on the hounds. Haven’t got a clue. I went to Wimbledon last Friday and won a packet on Tr2 since it hadn’t come in for some time. I guess you’ll think I’m a nutter but it worked!<br>Mr E<br>I look forward to it. Cheers, BakedBin.

    in reply to: The Lecture #51530
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    Hi guys<br>Just another little idea to consider. <br>How many people pick up a racecard or the RP in Ladhills on a wet Tuesday afternoon and say, "Right yer buggers, I’m gonna bet on every bloody horse in every meeting this pm. I’ll have a tenner on Old Gladys to win; couple of quid on Lazybones to place..oh and I’ll phone the Mrs to get her to lay Sillysod cos he’s well overhyped. Blimey, is that the time, they’re going in at Monmore, better stick a few quid on Tr4 – dunnowhy, like the name – Dog Corleone or something".<br>No – the only guys who do that are the oldfellas with their navy cigarettes and cartridge ink tattoos. Godbless em, we love ’em, but they’re Losers.<br>So…nobody bets in an undisciplined manner like this. We have a fag and a coffee and carefully make our selections. We know all about mid-morning tipsters and movements of the market, headlines in the RP and loud whispers in the bookies – but they don’t influence us.<br>But – roulette players don’t apply the same philosophy. They bet and bet and bet on anything and everything. Black, odd, even, high, low, you name it. They lose. But often they’ve been up for a while. That’s what keeps them there. With racing you have a few minutes to appreciate you’ve lost £50. Not with the wheel. It drains you so fast.<br>Tip – set yourself 10 spins or 20 spins and keep to it. Set a target of 10pts or 20pts and then leave. Remember – if it seems easy, stop soon. It’s not, you’re on a role but it will turn on you. Nobody imagines they can keep picking a winner, why imagine the wheel will keep paying? Another little helper I have, is I say, right I’ve made £20, I’ll use that as free bets on the nags. Don’t mind losing. Not my money.<br>One final thought – not probability but similar to what we’ve been saying through the thread. Arsenal unbeaten in the premiership. Do any of us really think they can keep this up for another year? No. Millersfield y’day – not a single Tr2. One for the memory bank. Would anybody think me nuts for backing Tr2 at the next Millersfield meeting?

    in reply to: The Lecture #51524
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    Hi guys<br>Good post – hope you don’t mind a tuppenyworth from a newbie. I have played roulette for just under a year and been very successful. I’m in agreement with Mr E (although I note snowy and others don’t disagree with the whole thread). The way I would put it is that it’s the difference between probability and EXPERIENCE. I don’t mean "experience" in the sense of skill, just what one’s experiences have been to date. When I started playing the numbers I was incredibly lucky. 20 bets on a 37 table kept coming up a winner – time, after time, after time. Then when it started changing i.e. one of the 17 non-covereds would come up, I would think "Christ, that number 2 or 5" so what would I do? I would cover 2 or 5. But why? Because they had come up against me and registered on my radar – keyed into my human-ness, if you know what I mean, made me aware of them. the reality was that the probability of 2 or 5 coming up was just the same as any other number. That got me thinking – I took the Mrs into Billy Hill’s for a go on the ITbox. Gave her no advice and watched her turn £50 into £200. Asked her which numbers she was covering – dunno, she said. Just lucky I guess, she said. Ok, I said, this time watch the table 10 times (you can obviously watch for free by placing level stakes on red and black) and try to spot so-called "hot" and "cold" numbers. It hindered her rather than helped. Why? Cos we’re human – we’re influenced by what came up, when, etc. I.e. we apply experience to what is probability.<br>Therefore the secret to my (very modest) success is to try to combine probability and experience. I know red can come up 5 zillion times on the trot but when would it? On the other hand, I know it can come up 10 or 11 times on the trot and destroy your bank. <br>Cover the numbers you want with modest amounts (20ps should keep you in the game) and look for patterns. You may have 5 odds on the trot. Take it from me, odd may come up 6th, 7th, 8th occasion but rarely more. Look at the columns – I’ve never had the middle column come up 5 times (I like level stakes on the 2 end pillars). Track the zero for Chrissake – if you start betting higher, insure yourself on zero. In fact, get your own back. Start looking at zero as one to bag – be the predator not the prey.<br>Final thought – russian roulette – 6 guys, one gun, one bullet, 6 chambers. The chamber is spun every time so the odds remain the same for each guy. Do you think the 6th guy is more or less confident than the 1st after the first 5 all survived? Experience or probability? Don’t get them confused. Have you ever seen a roulette table go red, then black, then red for more than 10 spins?

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