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Alpinista a bit too much to find for me
Of course she does, she’s a huge price.
Interested though, you are a big fan of RPRs and use them religiously it seems?
110 last time.
MDV-110
Frankly Darling highest 110
One Voice- 116 highest
Franconia- 111That to me doesn’t suggest she has tonnes to find. She’s also bred to be a 3yo, and what she acheived last year was only a bonus. Her run in France could be easily marked up to this year.
Not saying she’ll win, of course not but, i think she’ll run a cracker.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I use all the data I can possibly get my hands on Jack, not just RPRs. Of course, she can step up, lightly raced horses can always do that, I’d never say a horse can’t win. Despite her 110 RPR last time out, she is only rated 97 though. The lowest rated horse to win this over the last 15 years is 112.
It’s a massive step up for her.
Her win last time out was also on Firm ground. Would that not worry you here a bit?
You use RPRs a lot of the time as your guide though and they give her a solid mark- 105 is now her official mark, RP haven’t updated that.
The ground wouldn’t concern me for her as much as some of the others. She’s by Frankel who tend to handle an easy, out of a mare that stayed 2m+ and won on soft. I’d be happy enough with her on the ground, in fact, last week i was more concerned about the firm ground for her.
She’s improved 7pds in theory from her last run 98-105. She’s stepping up in trip again, and judging by your parents you’d say that’s logical. More progression likely? Who knows, but you’d think so? Issue might be the quick turnaround.It’ll be really interesting to see how she fares.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!A stroll in the park for love, she will take all the beating in the Arc and with getting weight off Enable she might just do it. Sea of Class nearly beat Enable in 2017 Arc, a few more strides and she would of caught Enable.
Very easy
Just a shame there wasn’t an established yardstick in the race to measure her against
She has every chance of beating enable who was a superstar 3yo herself but since despite still winning consistently hasnt been putting up the same level of performances
Just the mention of the name sea of class saddens me, what a shame we didn’t get to see more of her
Had there been less no hopers to pass in that Arc shed have won
Love is something else + my Arc bet lives to fight another day. Obviously Alpinista winning would’ve been a better result having 55s on her thanks to unibet boost- but the without bet + each way money did me nicely.
Alpinista is an improving filly. Once they start improving it’s not certain where their level lies, and today showing that with her. Love could be a generational filly, so there’s no disgrace for Alpinista to be beaten 5Ls. I reckon she could pick up a G1 of her own.
Wd other winners
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Good pick Jack, to be honest I didn’t pick up on the fact she wasn’t rated 98, but probably wouldn’t have picked her still. One Voice didn’t stay for me, she is 10f horse the others were awful. Alpinista’s breeding profile has loads of stamina in it, to me she just plodded on better than the rest into second. Not sure I see a Grp1 in her just yet. Love is obviously good, but her 12f form has very little depth to it (in winning the Arc terms). Enable has beaten very good horses consistently all her career.
Gosden knows Love is a potential machine. That’s why he got Enable to duck the race. Enable of old wouldnt have bottled the race they’d be confident she would win. Enable has beaten better horses but thats no surprise bearing mind the age and respective careers.
Probably right at this stage she’s not a certain G1 winner, but i wouldn’t be surprised if she could sneak one, maybe not this year (not sure what’s actually left lol).
Not sure why she’s still down as 97 on RP as BHA have updated her and i guess they’ll be updating her again after this. She’s raced again a week after she went and made all on Firm ground, i’m hopeful that’s not the best of her. Also, was surprised she wasn’t made more of but they clearly had one thing in mind- G1 Blacktype.
Also re Love, at the price now, that’s the view you’d have to take i think- her form is all filly form + not exactly working out fantastic, for all she’s hammering them. The thing is she’s a 3yo filly + her form substance wise is always going to look suspect when weighed up vs older horses etc. Obviously it would’ve been helpful to see Enable against her, but that was never happening. Maybe Magical? 3/1 i can see your argument to be fair.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I don’t agree with that Mike, JGs actually been very honest I think. He just didn’t want Enable to have a hard race. Let’s be clear, they don’t give a stuff about any other race this season at all. Everything is a prep for a third arc. He rates Love obviously. But he knew they’d take each other on in a hard race. Nothing to do with not being confident she’d win. Why would they care about winning another Yorkshire Oaks.
If people are sitting pretty on antipost bets then fair play, but right now the price is madness. There is a genuine concern about soft ground and it’s very likely to be that in October. She won’t win on soft and she’s beaten nothing. The 3yr old fillies look a pretty poor bunch on average across all of them this season to me.
I am however taking note of AOBs comments yesterday, the best filly he’s ever had. Wow that is some statement, didn’t even bother to mention the likes of Minding.
She looks like she could be exceptional visually, and on decent ground next season she could win everything. The Arc on soft, not for me.
Soft ground might be a concern, who knows? She’s only raced on yielding (g.s.) Yes she was beaten the 3 times, but never by far, and do we really think she is now only a 3/4L better filly than Daahyeh, a head better than Soul Search etc on good ground?
She improved lumps regardless of the ground from 2yo-3yo. As a 2yo she was nothing special at all, in fact i wasn’t too sure on her going into this year…
Agree with you on Enable/JG but couldn’t be bothered getting into it again as it’s the same every year!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!It’s in the lap of the gods what the weather will be like at Paris longchamp in early October. When Aiden had the 123 it must have been decent ground as I doubt highland reel would have been second if it was soft. As for love she looks like a filly who travels easily then hits quick fractions and is relentless and as she showed in the oaks can quicken off a fast pace. She’s hard to place in the list of great fillies as she has won so easily each time this season. Like enable I suspect Aiden has been eyeing the arc since the oaks confirmed she truly stayed 12f. Until she runs against older horses we won’t know how good she is.
Her price is too short but that’s not to say she doesn’t deserve to be favourite.
I’m sure serpentine will be there and make it a truly run race . Enable seemed to tail off last season in the arc and for that reason I think if it turns into a ding dong battle I think love will be relentless. Fantastic race to look forward to. I just hope everybody turns up.AOB has mentioned once this year and also last year that he thinks Love needs good ground to be at her best. They were genuinely concerned yesterday even on GS. She obviously had no issue with it, but on soft at LC she likely won’t be quite at her best and she’ll need to be you’d think.
I don’t think she’s a worthy fav at all mickey. How Enable is not fav for this is unbelievable quite frankly!
Yes. Love could be a superstar, but on all known form Enable is way better at the moment.
Yes he did, but her talking on the track this year has been so different to last year, i’d not be too worried about it. She’s a much improved filly. Enable didn’t quite see the race out last year as well on vsft so she’s probably not her best on it either- if it was to come to it.
Yes that form is still ahead of Loves, and you have to crab Love as shes short now and worth opposing, but i wouldn’t as worried. Plenty of trainers say “ground this, ground that” and then things change.
Last year, she ran her joint best rpr on g/s + still lost.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!
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