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- March 21, 2006 at 09:21 #99213
well, there you have it.
David William Donald Cameron, <br>son of Ian Donald Cameron, <br>son of Ewen Cameron,<br>who can trace his family back to King James and the 1st Marquess of Montrose
is not to be regarded as Scottish.
<br>best regards
wit
March 21, 2006 at 15:14 #99216well, there you have it.
David William Donald Cameron, <br>son of Ian Donald Cameron, <br>son of Ewen Cameron, <br>who can trace his family back to King James and the 1st Marquess of Montrose
is not to be regarded as Scottish.
I think we can file this under "english man is englishman – shocker!"
Maybe you’d like to estimate what percentage of Cameron’s blood comes from this Marquess of Montrose?
Steve
March 21, 2006 at 20:23 #99219My position is really anti-idiot
I would question your credentials on the anti-idiot front. You rightly name Hansen and Townsend, yet Motson escapes unmentioned.
The man is idiot personified. His most famous contribution to English football was to stand in the snow wearing a big coat, saying nothing. Truly, it was his finest hour.
March 22, 2006 at 18:34 #99221Och ey dah noo, to you Twister!
Wind me up you can, only because of your ignorance.
They are not black. To say black is racist. (None PC) (you should have known that one! I think you called it progress yourself). The phrase is "coloured". Jeez! Get it right man!<br> You are quite right though, in that the folk you enquire about are British, (English is not PC. Come on man keep up. This is progress you said!).not English as you guessed! Being English is not allowed anymore.
It is true however that 7 London boroughs now have "the immigrants out numbering the Hommies"
Read into it as you want but it "is" going to increase racial tensions amoug the population.
A quote that was said by the Muslim cheif cleric only a few days ago.
Keep up man!
(Edited by lollys mate at 6:56 pm on Mar. 22, 2006)
March 22, 2006 at 21:09 #99225"If a cat has kittens in an oven they are not rock-cakes."
March 23, 2006 at 11:37 #99226"If a cat has kittens in an oven they are not rock-cakes."
If the oven is in England, they are English kittens.
March 23, 2006 at 13:15 #99229To say black is racist
Bulls**t
.A couple of days ago, I was talking on the phone with the owner of a business that "serves the black and mixed communities".
("mixed" being part black, part something else)
We had a long conversation about the "black community" and how to market to them.
We kept using the word "black" to refer to people and we were also discussing the differences in behaviour between black people in the UK and non-black people.
Were we being racist?
I don’t think so. And, if the call had been recorded and played to a group of black people, I doubt any of them would say that I was racially prejuidiced.
Steve
PS The person I was talking with is either black or mixed-race and was the first to use the terms "black" and "mixed" in the conversation.
March 23, 2006 at 19:47 #99230GH.<br> This is why I call you "The Twister"!
Stevedvg.
I never said that to call someone black was deemed as racist.<br> The word "black" is so un-pc nowadays. A "black" board is now called a "chalk" board. ( The Twistmiester said that Political correctness is "progress"). That was my point! And your reply has only promoted my argument.
Some say black, some say coloured and some say brown.<br> It all equates to the same thing. So why the problems?
The problems are brought on by people trying too hard to be pc.
I myself have a darker than average skin colour.
Am I offended by someone who says……..You darker than average skin coloured bloke!
I think not. I dont get offended by the road rage man who calls me Paki or Spik. I find that it is quite a compliment as i do work hard on my tan;)
The Twistmeister is so caught up on his pc brigade stuff that he really does not have an arguement!
I am more than happy to use the phrase "black" "coloured" "brown" "asian" if its deemed appropriate, as you’re buisness person was himself.
<br> Where does this pc problem stem from ?
March 24, 2006 at 20:37 #99235Nothing with you is "perfectly straightforward" Twister.
Even you know that. The reply issue you have, works both ways aswell, old Pal.
The immigrants that I mention are the ones that have arrived from other shores. Not the ones who can all of a sudden become "British" by learning a few words of English and quoting the phrase that they have learnt at their local Town Hall.
You quite simply, live in Scotland, have no sence of reality about what is happening in England, particulaly London. I live in it every day. You probably, by listening to your pathetic hypocritical replies, have never even seen it once.
Your "progressive" P.C. is going to smack "you" in the face one day. And as I have tried to point out, it is utter crap.
You are quite right about me misunderstanding you.
Thats because you are so misunderstandible!
"Perfectly straightforward" ? MY ARSE!
March 27, 2006 at 17:56 #99237As I have tried to explain, the immigration figures that I quote are the foreign immigrants. Non British. People who have come from anothe place. But now you can now be born in Sri Lanka, live there all your life, come over to England, quote a phrase from a book, and still become British.
So to ask if the son/daughter are deemed as British, has no real importance, as almost anyone can become British.
But to answer your question, I say you are English if born in England. But that would be to simple in todays world.
March 27, 2006 at 19:02 #99238Your point?
March 27, 2006 at 20:05 #99239I say you are English if born in England
Ladies and gentlemen, we may be on the verge of a breakthrough here.
Let me ask a clear question. An Indian couple come to dwell amongst the tree-lined avenues of leafy Harrow. They take on British citizenship, conceive and produce a daughter. Would you say she is English?
March 28, 2006 at 18:52 #99240Do some home work you 2.
Look back at "all" the previous posts that I have placed about immigration.
Can you both answer me as to why you keep trying to say that I am wrong about what I have previously said?
One simple question, to two simple folk!
Latest!
Northwick Park Hospital, (its my local one) has sparked an outcry, because it now wants to "employ" a Muslim cleric on a wage of between 22 – 34,000 pounds to be their for its patience. When the locals were "wasp" the local vicar would do it for nothing!
Funny that dont you think?
March 28, 2006 at 19:23 #99241But why are the Scots so intolerant of the English? (Or at least English football and its fans.) Are they jealous? Sure the TV football pundits are gobs**t
es, but you can always turn the sound off. Do our Scots brothers still have an inferiority complex (they have no need to) ? Are they still festering over Culloden? Are the true "little Britain" xenophobes the Scots rather than the English?<br>Are the Scots more tolerant of our crazed intifida Muslim loons (carrying Brit passports) than they are of the white Anglo-Saxon, Chrisian (or at least agnostic) English? (Don’t want to start an argument or anything.)March 28, 2006 at 19:40 #99242Just one answer from both of you. <br> What have I said thats wrong?<br> The 7 bouroughs thing is real, it was in the daily mail and proves a point that you don’t know what London is really like.
I could ask Wit to prove it to you as he has proved other statistics that you have queried.
<br>Wheres you and your mates answers?
March 28, 2006 at 20:02 #99243I asked you a question, Lolly’s Mate. I’m asking it again. It isn’t a complicated one.
An Indian couple come to dwell amongst the tree-lined avenues of leafy Harrow. They take on British citizenship, conceive and produce a daughter. Would you say she is English?
An answer please.
March 29, 2006 at 11:44 #99244Quote from Lolly’s Mate – ‘ The 7 bouroughs thing is real, it was in the daily mail’<br>Must be true then!
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