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Why is Pyledriver bypassing the Arc?

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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    He has the best 1m4f form on a flat track, it is his ideal trip and he’ll like the way the race will be run.
    Any chances for him to be supplemented?
    I would like to see him against the three excellent mares/fillies that are heading the market now. Though Enable should be almost double the odds she is right now.

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    He could be supplemented on Sept 30th, but the fee is 72,000 euros. He’d need to finish fifth just to get that back in prize money, and there’s no prize money at all for any horse finishing outside the first five.

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    “He has the best 1m4f form on a flat track, it is his ideal trip and he’ll like the way the race will be run.”

    How will it be run?

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    You have to ask the lads sporting sam. They know everything.
    One can assume a very fast pace, you would war to have Enable out of her comfort zone.
    It would suit Pyledriver in many ways, but if there is just five places there is no way he will run.

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    If anyone was confident about him any price would be fine to supplement him surely?
    Who are the lads?
    Not Ballydoyle!

    #1501610
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    The lads are always Ballydoyle and they always know the tactics applied before the race.

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    I think Pyledriver is a grand horse.
    I dont think the stable have made the best use of him.
    Funnily enough Logician won the race on the opposite side last season.
    The lads have more horses at their disposal to be fair.

    #1501614
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    The owners and trainer had a plan. The St Leger followed by the Champion Stakes. To give the owners some nice days out.

    Maybe its the space between the races, and/or they don’t want the hassle of going to France against Love?

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    Yes. He is their horse and they are having fun with him.

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    I’m trying to figure out which British trained horse has the better form this year over 1m4f.

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    The form of his great voltigeur isn’t anything special

    He beat highland chief, a below par mogul, berkshire rocco who needs further and darain who ran no race at all

    Doesn’t scream arc winner to me

    Maybe the owners realise that going to the slightly weaker race at ascot is his best chance of getting a win

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    Enable beat all sorts of below par horses in below par races. The KG was a complete joke.
    Stradivarius is another one running over the wrong trip, Raabibah is nothing special and so on. I think that at least a top three finish would have been very realistic.

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    He would have a chance of placing as the french horses seem to be absolutely useless this year

    So we have the two gosden horses then whatever obrein runs

    If he was to run and be held up and run past beaten horses could definitely see him finishing in the first 4

    Maybe the owners want to give him more time after the derby, voltigeur and a gruelling leger

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