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This is the quote from the Sporting Life
Special colt from day one
“And then when she was scanned in-foal with a colt, and then all the hype of expectations were there straightaway from before he was born. He was measured, measured, measured all the way, and he was ticking the top of the measurements all the way.“It’s difficult for a person or a horse to handle all that, and he did, all the way through before he came to Ballydoyle. And then he came to Ballydoyle and I remember Ryan [Moore] sitting on him in the February as a two-year-old, and saying, ‘This is very special’.
“And then the bar is even higher. He did a lovely run first time and won his next three, and then he was put away and the plan was for the Guineas. Two days before the Guineas – we always felt the Guineas was going to be his toughest assignment, but when that happens everything has to fall right for you, the things that you can’t control have to fall in place for you.
And this is the interview after the Derby:
Scanning any animal when holding young can show a whole lot of information but whether that information can tell you a superstar is waiting to see the day of light I have no idea. Probably post race nonsense.
The more I know the less I understand.
I was also thinking the same RTB. How come nobody else before him was talking about measuring a horse?
There must be some superstar measurements for sure. What happens to the horses “outside” of those perfect measurements?Maybe it’s their measuring that separates “The Lads” from the rest.
Not their virtual monopoly on the best bloodstock.
So cynical, Gladders.
That said, no sooner had I grudgingly acknowledged – for the first time ever – that the trainer with the best material did actually pull off quite a training feat today than the old marketing spiel resumed.
Apparently he’s never had a horse like Auguste Rodin and, now he’s “free of the Triple Crown shackles” (err, it was your idea in the first place) all options are open to him.
What this really means he’s won The Derby, the St Leger’s no use unless they want him to be a Jumps sire, so let’s find the easiest 1m2f Group 1 on the planet.
Might not be easy, though – no Frankels or Baaeeds around, but plenty of OR 120+ 1m2f horses lining for the Eclipses etc.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“…so let’s find the easiest 1m2f Group 1 on the planet.”
I wouldn’t want to race against any of the Shadwell horses over 1m2f. I mean Hukum has room for further improvement and Anmaat could develop into an 120+ horse anytime.
The only logical target can be the King George next with the Arc in mind. His sire finished third at Longchamp back in 2006 only to be disqualified for a banned substance. I’m 100% sure he has the Arc in mind as a sire with an Epsom Derby, KG and Arc win to his name would easily be the next Galileo or Saddlers Wells….
I will be very surprised if he lines up in the King George. O’Brien does not seem to like the race for three year olds.
I think it will be the Irish Derby, followed by a mid season break before the Irish Champion Stakes, Arc and Breeders Cup.
They will want a 10 furlong Group 1 on his CV if possible.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Definitely the arc but the ground could go against him. I’d guess the eclipse might be in the mix with the breeders Cup at the end . I know they have to utter all the necessary sales pitch but he doesn’t look like he’s fully there yet so he could well be a very exciting horse. Also depends if and when Paddington steps up in trip assuming Cairo becomes the 3yo miler for coolmore
I agree a bit about the King George, Cork. But, with Luxembourg a proven G1 performer at 1m2f he might already have his horse for the Eclipse and also for further G1 races at 10 furlongs. He won’t run both of them in the Eclipse and the same might happen in the Irish Champion Stakes too. He might also consider the Juddmonte International for Auguste Rodin. Just guessing…
I think the juddmonte was mentioned somewhere in the tens of interviews aidan did. He must be knackered. He must survive on very little sleep.
I’m not seeing he pulled off any great training feat. For one reason or another the horse flopped in the Guineas, was he given a hard race not in my eyes so no surprise under different conditions wins the Derby.
Different scenario the horse wins the Guineas then follows up in the Derby, the horse is the legend and not the trainer.The more I know the less I understand.
I suppose what they mean by “measured” is:
Given his breeding:
From the moment he was scanned as a colt they were thinking of Derby, Derby, Derby.
Then as a foal and yearling thinking every month is he progressing physically?… And yes including physically measuring.
Then also when put in training, is he making the physical and mental improvement that’ll see him first past the post at Epsom?
And as he ran each time measuring how good his form was. Is it measuring up into Derby quality?Yes, from an early stage am sure they recognised Auguste Rodin was their number 1 Derby prospect.
Has been one of the favourites if not the fav soon after betting on the Derby opened.
Always being measured up metaphorically and possibly physically too.
… And – with the exception of his two year old debut and three year old reappearance – always coming up trumps.Then again, Magnier has said very similar – if not the exact same things – about many Derby prospects and Derby winners over the years. ie Seemingly talking up all his prospective stallions that nobody really takes any notice anymore. Which is a shame because one day he’ll be right.
Must be a frustration to Magnier and Coolmore that – even with so many Derby and other Group 1 winners – they’ve never actually had a “great” racehorse. At least “great” in relation to its rating. eg No Coolmore horse has ever achieved a 140+ Timeform rating. Frankel, Sea The Stars etc trained and owned by others.
(Galileo might have achieved it if he’d been kept in training at four, but wasn’t so didn’t).
Value Is EverythingWell, I almost agree with you Ginge about the “great” racehorses theory. I think his top three Timeform rated horses were Hawk Wing at 136 and Galileo and Rip Van Winkle at 134. Aidan never had anything near Sea The Stars or Frankel quality and nothing that was dominant over 10-12f over a period of two years.
Maybe Galileo could have emerged as a “great” racehorse had he beaten Fantastic Light on home soil.
tbh I think Galileo was robbed that day Ruby.
Goldolphin imo using team tactics.
As I remember:
Their pacemaker came off the rail on the home bend, allowing Fantastic Light through while forcing Galileo wide.Value Is EverythingYou’re right Ginge, he had to go round Give The Slip when entering the straight, while Fantastic Light had room to burst through on the inside which helped him gain the decisive advantage over Galileo.
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