What races should be ‘heritage handicaps’, regardless?

[Racing Daily]

Following on from Drone’s post in the 32Red thread, i’d be interested in getting a list of races that deserve to be Heritage Handicaps based on their historical value rather than monetary. I’ll start with three obvious ones …

Cambridgeshire (Nkt)
Cesarewitch (Nkt)
Ebor (Yrk)

[cormack15]

Lincoln
Bunbury Cup
Northumberland plate
Ayr Gold Cup
Wokingham

[RedRum77]

Grand National, Scottish National, Welsh National & Irish National.

[CarryOnKatie]

While not wanting to sound like one of Rod Streets "Always on a Saturday", I do think there should be one big handicap (Heratige, Premium, Bookies Benefit whatever…) each Saturday.

I’m thinking an equivalent of a "Tierce" race in France. Obviously a number of Saturdays already have this. Maybe FredTote can build something around this.

Back to the original question, obvious "Heratige" handicaps are:-

Flat:-

Lincoln
Chester Cup
Victoria Cup
Royal Hunt Cup
Britannia
Wokingham
Northumberland Plate
John Smiths Cup (York)**
Bunbury Cup**
International (Ascot – King George Day)
Mile (Goodwood – used to be Schweppes)
Stewards Cup
Ebor
Great St Wilfred
Portland
Ayr Gold Cup
7f Hcap at Ascot (used to be Festival Hcap)
Cambridgeshire
Cesarewitch
November

**Ridiculous that this year they will be on the same day!

Jumps

Paddy Power Gold Cup (Mackeson)
Hennessy
Boylesports Gold Cup (Cheltenham)
Ladbroke (Ascot)
Welsh National
Totesport Trophy (Newbury)
Racing Post Chase
Imperial Cup
NH Hcap Chase (Currently William Hill Chase – Cheltenham Fest)
Mildmay of Flete (now Festival Plate)
Pertemps Final
Coral Cup
County Hurdle
Topham Trophy
Grand National
Scottish National
Whitbread (as was)
Swinton

Sorry, kids got me up early!

[Irish Stamp]

Agree Carry On Katie – the French have a "Quinte" race daily, be it a flat race, a trotting race, hurdle or steeplechase – generally a handicap with 18+ runners and a monster prize if you can pick the first 5 home.

All I can say is good luck getting a bet on if you’re playing in the minutes before the off of the Quinte race, something similar in the UK would bring absolute fortunes into British racing and if you have each track stage at least one per year with a decent enough marketing and the takeout for the Tote going towards that tracks prize money I’m sure it could raise a heck of a lot of money that could then be put back into British racing.

[zanybody]

I’d also add the Old Newton Cup to the Flat list.

[parlo]

Are there present-day-aquivalents to those old important handicaps:

– Newbury Spring, Summer, Autumn Cups
– Jubilee Handicap (Sandown)
– Queen’s Prize (Kempton?)
– Manchester (Summer) Cup
– Great Yorkshire Handicap (run on St. Leger-course)?

Why lost those great Epsom-handicaps

– City & Suburban
– Great Metropolitan

their meaning?

Sorry, that those old races lost their importance they once had.

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