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June 16, 2008 at 19:33 #168602
Coldplay and U2 are of the same ilk: dull. I like my music to have some emotion, some bass, some beat, some noise, something to make the car vibrate when I turn it up loud.
June 16, 2008 at 20:10 #168607drove round Cornwall on holiday one year playing Sunday Bloody Sunday and singing along to it…had to remind the kids not to sing it when they went back to school after the hols…yes, time does fly, doesn’t it!
June 17, 2008 at 14:09 #168760There is nothing "beautiful" about droning guitars and a self righteous prick banging on about africa.
Mozart’s clarinet concerto is beautiful. As is John Coltranes Greensleeves or, if you want rock music (of sorts), is the beatles Strawberry fields. And a voice? Sam cooke perhaps. Al green or Marvin
Not some straining bombastic claptrap
June 17, 2008 at 14:43 #168771And now completely bereft of ideas, they have resorted to hiring Brian Eno, so blatantly copying U2 in this respect.
Eno will pretty much w*nk for coins nowadays – he’s produced part of the forthcoming Dido album, for heaven’s sake.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
June 17, 2008 at 16:25 #168826Oh God, she’s not back is she?
What is it with the likes of her and James Blunt – it seems virtually the law that every household has one of their albums, yet everyone hates them.
Her first album was alright but christ….enough already.
Another few for my list of people I can’t stand: Natasha Bloody Bedingfield, Her Useless Brother, Robbie Williams and Mika. Evil, the lot of them.
Although Daniel Bedingfield inadvertantly made me laugh once when his song ‘Nothing Hurts Like Love’ was on Radio One and somebody phoned in to say that they’d just stood on a plug barefoot and it hurt a f*** load more than love ever did.
June 17, 2008 at 16:31 #168827Although Daniel Bedingfield inadvertantly made me laugh once when his song ‘Nothing Hurts Like Love’ was on Radio One and somebody phoned in to say that they’d just stood on a plug barefoot and it hurt a f*** load more than love ever did.
I’ll vouch for that.
June 17, 2008 at 19:10 #168872And now completely bereft of ideas, they have resorted to hiring Brian Eno, so blatantly copying U2 in this respect.
Eno will pretty much w*nk for coins nowadays – he’s produced part of the forthcoming Dido album, for heaven’s sake.
gc
About time Dido did some new material, Saw her live in Manchester at the Apollo same night that the old ratbag Madonna was playing at the MEN Arena.
Really good concert,Got a good voice and i think she is very attractive too.
June 17, 2008 at 19:43 #168880Oh God, she’s not back is she?
What is it with the likes of her and James Blunt – it seems virtually the law that every household has one of their albums, yet everyone hates them.
Her first album was alright but christ….enough already.
Another few for my list of people I can’t stand: Natasha Bloody Bedingfield, Her Useless Brother, Robbie Williams and Mika. Evil, the lot of them.
Although Daniel Bedingfield inadvertantly made me laugh once when his song ‘Nothing Hurts Like Love’ was on Radio One and somebody phoned in to say that they’d just stood on a plug barefoot and it hurt a f*** load more than love ever did.
Ditto ditto ditto all of the above.
June 17, 2008 at 19:46 #168881track 3 on No angel the song that we all wished we’d written after we’d been dumped……
June 18, 2008 at 12:39 #169047That reminds me about the gag where U2 are playing a concert in Dublin when Bono, between sets, starts clapping his hands slowly;
"Every time I clap my hands, a child in Africa dies" he intones solemnly
"Stop feckin’ doin’ it then!" shouts a voice in the second row.
Quite.
June 20, 2008 at 17:49 #169506Thats superb Rory
He is a wnkr isnt he?
Firefox…why is Mozart "middle class"?
Nothing more "middle class" in my experience than inde type rock bands, who appeal mostly to students and people in denim jackets from "villages" in Surrey
Working class music in the UK has more often than not centered around soul and funk. Certainly in london
Which is a form of music i love of course..see above
Mozart cuts across all boundaries.
June 20, 2008 at 21:13 #169533Working class music in the UK has more often than not centered around soul and funk. Certainly in london
Reggae, ska and various kinds of heavy metal here in the cradle of the Industrial Revolution. Same principle though.
Mozart cuts across all boundaries.
Quite. I do cringe when I hear the word ‘genius’ thrown about and it turns out that people are talking about that bloke from the White Stripes, Pete Doherty or the third turd from the left in Razorlight. Now these people may make music that is pleasing, that stimulates, inspires or has meaning and good luck to them (apart from Razorlight). But its still just guitar, bass, drums and half a dozen chords.
Mozart wrote his first symphony at the age of eight. End of competition.
You see, I know we are supposed to think that everything is relative these days, that Tracy Emin’s sweaty socks are just as good as Monet’s lily pond. But it isn’t true. Everything is not relative. Some things are better than others. Titian was better then Hirst will ever be. Classical music is better than popular music. And by better, I mean more skillful, more complex, more interesting and therefore more worthy of acclaim. And I say that even though I know very little about it. Mind you that hasn’t stopped me posting on any other subject.
June 20, 2008 at 23:52 #169566Here in the middle of a Northern mining-town, the cars are blaring out… CDs of ‘happy hardcore’ DJ sets with weasely thugs rapping over the top (think Scooter); that is what the majority of the young working-class listens to (and makes), not funk or soul or anything remotely artistic or meaningful. Maybe a couple of generations ago… I wish I was born here in the 60s/70s (in theory).
As much as I dislike Bono, I think The Unforgettable Fire is a great album… and, er, the song New Years Day. Even tomorrow if U2 made an album better than my current favourite album (Hex Enduction Hour this minute) I would call it rubbish; there is definitely a relationship between my perception of an artist and my appreciation of their music, which I think is probably the same for most people (unless I’m exceptionally shallow).
July 4, 2008 at 10:36 #171624classical composers of the time as in some way intellectually superior to the popular music of the modern day.
Simple fact is that more sophisticated forms of music last
Of course Mozart is vastly superior in every way to the latest 3 min verse chorus verse chorus droning guitar drivel (i must admit i have a particular loathing for the emperors new clothes inde music scene)
Because most pop music is relatively pared down to instantly appeal, it will naturally sound repetitive after a period of time. with even the greatest music within that genre, there is a limit to how often you can listen to it and how many interpretations you can stomach
Not so with Mozart and the finest classical of course.
Within popular music there has been the absolute genius of the Beatles and the creatitivity and groundbreaking of much of the black music scene as well as much else to admire
Now if you were able to enlighten me on the current classical scene in Britain, and the most lauded up and coming classical composers that would be different.
What that got to do with anything?
This strange idea that music is only relevant if it is current? What absolute garbage
July 4, 2008 at 10:56 #171633Now if you were able to enlighten me on the current classical scene in Britain, and the most lauded up and coming classical composers that would be different.
I’m certainly partial to a bit of current Scottish composer James MacMillan, as it happens – Veni, Veni, Emmanuel and As Others See Us are most engaging works.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
July 4, 2008 at 13:12 #171671Absolutre crap
The usual rubbish from a rock fan. Whos taste probably goes no further and think that the very limited form of music they like is somehow the centre of the creative universe.
You couldnt even grasp my point about the limitations of most pop music.
Where did i say i dislike it anyway? You have no idea of how wide my tastes are and nor am i bother going to tell you
Suffice to say that classical isnt even my favourite genre
You are not a genuine classical music fan
You really are a an idiot atrent you? The one example i quoted was a NEGATIVE example (as used by call centres)
July 4, 2008 at 13:17 #171672Jeezus clivex. Keep yer fecking hair on – you’ll give yourself a thrombosis.
PS Fidel rules, Chelsea are sh*it and you are being royally shafted on your licence fee.
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