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November 26, 2008 at 21:59 #9437
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This is by far my favourite punting race of the festive season, though nothing seems to be jumping out at me at this stage. Highly unoriginal, but at a quick glance Nenuphar Collonges looks sure to run a big race IMO, highly likely to carry 10st5 by the looks of things.
November 26, 2008 at 23:34 #192443Nenuphar collonges for me too Friggo, he looks a staying chaser chucked in! I hope Halcon runs to keep the weights down, although Nenuphar is built to carry weight!
November 26, 2008 at 23:53 #192450He’ll take off and gallop everyyrhing off theirf eet…Chepstow is taylormade for a horse like him/……..I hate the place BTW but that’s just the way I see it
November 26, 2008 at 23:58 #192453Forgive me for asking Fist but what does BTW mean?
November 27, 2008 at 00:04 #192456Halcon will run a good race for us and Nenuphar still holds an entry for the race.
Would be nice to see him run.
The heavier the ground, the better for Halcon, so if it is forecast rain, there will be plenty of support for him.
November 27, 2008 at 01:05 #192470Forgive me for asking Fist but what does BTW mean?
Means By the Way.
On a similar vein i love the Welsh National aswell, A typical long distance chase on a course built for stayers.
Nenuphar was very tough on his Bangor run first time out this season,
If Old Benny is entered then he could get a nice weight to run off as he needs a test of stamina.
November 27, 2008 at 01:28 #192475Cheers Neil, BTW, unfortunately Old benny isn"t in the decs for the Welsh
National.I thought Halcon put him in his place in the Scottish National!November 27, 2008 at 14:15 #192531The Welsh Nash, rather than the Hennessy, is the top handicap I’m really expecting Verasi to land this season. If he isn’t going to win at Newbury, hopefully he runs somewhere way down the field, and doesn’t affect his handicap mark too much.
On current ratings, he’s due to get 24lbs from Halcon Genelardais, which is a nice ‘racing weight’ for this kind of marathon.
November 27, 2008 at 14:28 #192534I hope Notre Pere goes for this race, would really suit him, normally run on soft ground, he would also get 17lbs from Halcon Genelardais.
JohnJ.
November 27, 2008 at 18:32 #192574Why is Mon Mome not single figures for this? Even though he’ll be 7 lb higher than Haydock, that run signified that he’s very much back in the sort of form he was in 2006/7 when he ran umpteen good races in all the strong staying handicap chases, including when runner-up in this race. Halcon Generlardais is single figures yet Mon Mome is 11 lb better off for 4 lengths that day, one was completely laboured on his reappearance, the other went with more zest than a jiff lemon. I think he’s massively overpriced at 20’s with Ladbrokes and have played accordingly.
November 27, 2008 at 22:56 #192627Good shout DJ- add to what you’ve said that he usually improves for his first run and will prefer the softer surface near certain at Cheppy and 20-1 looks massive, have followed you in.
November 28, 2008 at 01:16 #192671The Welsh Nash, rather than the Hennessy, is the top handicap I’m really expecting Verasi to land this season. If he isn’t going to win at Newbury, hopefully he runs somewhere way down the field, and doesn’t affect his handicap mark too much.
On current ratings, he’s due to get 24lbs from Halcon Genelardais, which is a nice ‘racing weight’ for this kind of marathon.
The trainer will make a decision on Verasi nearer the time but is of the opinion that the horse is a devout soft ground stayer, which sounds perfect for this race. I’m off to do my home work on what sort of record seven year olds have in the race.
I like your thinking here Grass.November 28, 2008 at 01:52 #192680Last 11 renewals three 7yos have won and two 6yos and between they have won the last four renewals.
Four 9yos and two 8yos make up the list.
More interestingly only one horse has carried over 11st(Halcon Genelardais)in that time.No horse rated 150+ has won the race in this time.
Seven winners come with a BHB rating in the 130s.Another Hennessy runner of interest with my eye on the Welsh Nat is Evan Williams High Chimes.
November 28, 2008 at 15:31 #192802Cut to 16’s now but still looks too big.
November 28, 2008 at 15:33 #192803Sorry David- hope you were on!
November 28, 2008 at 15:45 #192808Yes Carvs ta.
November 28, 2008 at 15:50 #192810My Will is my outside hope for the Welsh National.
Will be watching with interest in the Hennessy on Saturday to see how he shapes up.
Has been dropped a few lbs since his last run and if Schofield takes off a few more he could get into the Welsh national carrying something like 10-10.
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