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  • #25783
    PRG
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    Not new news really, but highlighted in the currant bun yesterday where the article led:
    Channel 4’s dwindling racing audience will come under the spotlight at the Grand National meeting.
    Cheltenham was a disaster, starting with an appearance by a psychic pig tipster. Which formless executive thought of that?
    Figures were down overall at Cheltenham yet C4’s loyal Hannah Walker still claims all is well. The Daily Telegraph’s Jim McGrath commented: "she’s a better spinner than Shane Warne".

    #473017
    runandskip
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    People have been saying for months that the policy of not showing the horses before the race in favour of interviews drive then up the wall but still the ill thought out format continues.
    Also why do we have to put up with that annoying music every time they put a caption on screen?

    #473063
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Its a terrible programme that is far more interesting in pulling the casual fan.

    ‘Jack of all trades and master of none.’

    #473064
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    When you have their time experts

    Jim McGrath

    and

    Graham Cunningham

    stating at the festival that race times over jumps should be started from when the "tapes go up" and not when they pass the starter, the way

    Timeform

    now time the races, you come to realise what a couple of arrogant idiots they are.

    No doubt they also believe that there is an Easter Bunny and the WFA scale designed by Admiral Rous is accurate. 8)

    #473071
    edinahib
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    Its neither light entertainment or an informative racing programme.I know mcririck isnt to everbodys taste but as he has shown on atr he is still by far the most interesting pundit. Channel 4 need to admit their mistake,get thommo, big mac and alistair down back on and get matt chapman as well.I only watch channel 4 when atr arent covering the races and unless they sort it out we could end up not seeing racing on terrestial tv as channel 4 wont let this go on forever.Of the current channel 4 set up id only keep graham cunningham and of the course the gorgeous gina bryce.The rest im afraid need to go.

    #473086
    no idea
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    Personally I hope they go.
    The broadcast is shocking and those ridiculous pictures from the car when you can only see less than half the field is toe-curling.
    I don’t know what hold they have over Racing UK because they show those pictures when C4 is on and I hate them

    #473088
    Avatar photoricky lake
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    Looks like your stuck with them …..

    Never mind , just switch off and pay a few bob for RUK , they are the business

    It would not surprise me if we have no terestial coverage within the next 5 years ….would it make any difference ???

    I doubt it

    imo

    #473105
    Avatar photophil walker
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    The powers at be at Channel 4 never listen to criticism, with particular reference to presenters sticking a microphone up at winner jockeys after a race which is universally condemned as worthless, but yet they keep on doing it so I don’t think they will make any changes to the show. However I agree with what other people have said bring back Alastair Down, Derek Thompson and Mike Cattermole and bring some of the fun back.

    I remember a few years ago when racing was cancelled & C4 had Alastair, Catt, Mac etc in the studio. Catt was reading the results from somewhere in Ireland and having great difficulty in pronouncing the names of the some of the winners which included something like Graffititongue. It was so funny hearing Catt getting more and more flustered trying to name the horses which being friendly barracked by Alastair and Big Mac. It was silly but I do miss that style of presenting.

    As for Ricky’s suggestion there will no terrestrial coverage of racing in five years I’m quite certain of it, but while ATR and Racing UK are around, and I’m sure someone like Sky will pick up the big races such as the Derby and Grand National, there probably won’t be much difference.

    #473125
    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    Alice Plunkett needs to go. She’s about as appealing as a turd on a dinner table.

    #473132
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    I am firmly of the belief that **********, ********** and ********** should all be sacked immediately because I don’t like them.

    Likewise, **********, ********** and ********** should be promoted/brought back/on a lot more often because I think they are brilliant.

    Failure to comply with this is obvious proof that Channel Four just don’t listen to me. Sorry, I mean their customers.

    Mike

    (********** insert name as required)

    #473140
    Avatar photostevecaution
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    Alice Plunkett needs to go. She’s about as appealing as a

    turd on a dinner table

    .

    With that in mind I think I’ll back

    Brown

    sea Brink and Gabrials

    Kaka

    in a cheeky reverse forecast for the Lincoln

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #473146
    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    We could be onto something Steve. I’m now gonna put a tenner on Off Art … which seems more like

    Of Fart

    to me.

    #473166
    edinahib
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    There does seem to be a lot of wind that comes out of the current presenters. As with most organisations in general ch 4 seem to think they know better than the customer. Me thinks the ship will hit the rocks sooner or later.

    #473208
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    I am firmly of the belief that **********, ********** and ********** should all be sacked immediately because I don’t like them.

    Likewise, **********, ********** and ********** should be promoted/brought back/on a lot more often because I think they are brilliant.

    Failure to comply with this is obvious proof that Channel Four just don’t listen to me. Sorry, I mean their customers.

    Mike

    (********** insert name as required)

    It’s not that straightforward, though, is it? I’m pretty sure we could round up four TRF members and come up with a better team than that currently employed by Channel 4. And, yes, you only need four people in total: anchor, form expert, interviewer and betting ring reporter. The current presentation team is way too bloated.

    #473216
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    I’m pretty sure we could round up four TRF members and come up with a better team than that currently employed by Channel 4.

    Absolutely no chance.

    Fronting programs on TV has little to do with knowledge and everything to do with presenting skills. Take any four people off here (or anywhere else) and they would mumble, ‘dry’ and go ‘umm’ and ‘er..’ every ten seconds.

    It would look & sound dreadful!

    Mike

    #473217
    Avatar photoCrepello1957
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    Depends on what their background is. I’m a lecturer and would have no trouble, I’m sure there are lots on here that could write me my script……1

    #473220
    apracing
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    Mike,

    But Mapletoft has built an entire career on Um and Err!

    Having been there, done that, if only briefly, I can confirm that it isn’t as easy as it looks. It requires a lot of preparation, and it can still go wrong if events take an unexpected turn.

    I still have bad dreams about the time I was required to fill 11 minutes on an 8 runner Wincanton novice hurdle (in which five of the field were 50/1 or bigger) after one of the runners got loose.

    It’s the hardest sport to broadcast live because the action fills such a small part of the total program time. It’s why the Grandstand coverage was the best, because they filled in the gaps with other sports.

    What leads to the love him/her, hate him/her positions is the fact that him and her spend so much time on screen during a racing program, whereas with football, cricket, tennis, golf, there’s lots of action and less talking heads.

    The nearest parallel with racing is athletics, and I feel the same way about Denise Lewis (does she employ a hairdresser or a landscape gardener?) and Colin Jackson as many do about Emma and the Cat.

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