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I thought she had rode the perfect race but she must have listened too much to Mick Fitz as he told her to jump first and race second and it wasn’t until after the last she went more for it, I think if she had made a bid before the last would have got closer but what a wonderful effort and experience of a lifetime for her.
Very well done PendletonCharles Darwin to conquer the World
Reports that she got her whip stuck in the tack – perhaps the girth, somehow. Might have been very different!
Reports that she got her whip stuck in the tack – perhaps the girth, somehow. Might have been very different!
That makes sense, she did seem to have great difficultly in using it which i was surprised at. I wonder what might have been if she was able to ride it flat out from the home turn. Would definately have won. Was so close at the finish under hands and heels from an inexperienced tired rider. The whip would have made a huge difference.
Grayson, that was a good prediction!
Other than bismarking Un De Sceaux and salvaging the e/w on A Good Skin and Coo Star Sivola, Ms P was about as much as I got right all week! I shall be swimming in the more familiar waters of Hutton Rudby Point-to-Point tomorrow, depleted wad in hand…
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Cheers, Espmadrid. Ooof – nearly 25 years on, that still doesn’t look pretty.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Outstanding effort, couldn’t have done better. The horse who was a great partner was perfectly placed throughout. Surrounded by experienced jockeys from whom she was receiving no weight allowance she could well have ended up on the floor if she had pressed any harder for an unlikely victory, she got it just right imo.
Thought Stewart Machin was very petty on RUK, didn’t want to give her any credit at all and criticised her “exaggerated waiting tactics” lol.
I thought she did brilliantly
Before the race everyone was saying that the horse was a non stayer. Surely with a non stayer you lob them around at the back and try to save your effort for when the other horses might be tiring at the finish
I don’t think the horse could have finished any closer however it was ridden and if she’d following Fitzy and Machin and pinged him out at the front and ran up with the pace he’d have faded, got tired, probably fallen or finished a distance back
I think Yeats is correct. If she had attempted to use her whip she might well have spoiled her day.
Far better that she ride the horse within her limits and achieve a happy and successful day.
using a whip isn’t as easy as one might think. Many jockeys use the whip as a bad substitute for pushing a horse out properly. When you can do the latter without thinking about it , then you can start to learn to ride a finish with a whip.I am interested in the fact that VP thanked her sponsor . How does having sponsorship affect her amateur status under the rules of racing ?
I think Yeats is correct. If she had attempted to use her whip she might well have spoiled her day.
Far better that she ride the horse within her limits and achieve a happy and successful day.
using a whip isn’t as easy as one might think. Many jockeys use the whip as a bad substitute for pushing a horse out properly. When you can do the latter without thinking about it , then you can start to learn to ride a finish with a whip.I am interested in the fact that VP thanked her sponsor . How does having sponsorship affect her amateur status under the rules of racing ?
I would presume aftr reading the BHA rules that as she didn’t have any Betfair branding on her silks or breeches she is ok.
Good result for racing, well done Vic P.
There’s no rule to say you have to use the whip anyway. Good ride under the circumstances. Understand the reasons for dropping Pacha out, barely gets 3 miles on a flat track let alone 3m2f at Cheltenham. Had it been a stongly run race last thing she’d want is a tired horse over the last few fences. As it turned out – might have done a little better had she raced more prominently because a slow pace played in to the non-stayer/speedier types.
I know Vic now says she wants to concentrate on being a Point To Point jockey now – but…
What about taking on the Aintree fences in the Foxhunter? Trip should suit Pacha better and the horse was second last year.
Go on VP, you know you want to!
Value Is EverythingNot sure about the relevant sub-paragraph but on the radio last night they said that she wasn’t qualified to run in the Aintree Foxhunters because of the race conditions
The pledge to spend the rest of the season honing her craft in Points looks like it’s going to be honoured in the immediate term at least, with Ms P apparently set to ride at Kimble on Easter Saturday. Certainly two of her regular mounts are entered up a couple of times each there.
Alan Hill usually farms races at this course, the next nearest to the Hills’ own base opposite Kingston Blount racecourse, so there was always a strong likelihood she’d be making an appearance here. The course itself will pose at least as many issues for the rider as the (likely numerically thin) opposition, however, as this very old Pointing line (established 1912, I think) consists of a mixture of island fences conducive to run-outs and a few permanent obstacles still half-built into hedgerows. Notably, it also includes the last surviving water jump at any British Pointing fixture, and a natural one at that.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Not sure about the relevant sub-paragraph but on the radio last night they said that she wasn’t qualified to run in the Aintree Foxhunters because of the race conditions
I’m not sure VP wants to go to Liverpool but Andy Stewart spoke thusly following the Cheltenham race.
Owner Andy Stewart is hoping the rules governing amateur licences will be changed to allow Pendleton the chance to take on the Grand National fences in the Foxhunters Chase at Aintree… “I just hope the rules will be changed between the Category A and B licences so she can ride him at Aintree. “She’s got to have a couple more rides under Rules or the rules have got to be changed to ride at Aintree.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/35845695
The guidance notes for amateur riders permit applications include these definitions for Category “A” and “B” permits.
CATEGORY “A”: Holders of these permits may ride only in Flat races and/or Steeple Chases and
Hurdle races confined to Amateur Riders.CATEGORY “B”: Holders of these permits may ride in Flat races confined to Amateur Riders, all National Hunt Flat races and in Steeple Chases and Hurdle races except those confined to licensed Jockeys.
If a Category “A” permit gets La Pendleton to Cheltenham then why doesn’t it allow her to ride around Liverpool in an amateur riders race, given the above definition? What additional advantage is conferred by a Category “B” permit anyway, bar the ability to ride in NH Flat races in which licensed jockeys also compete? What is the meaning of Andy Stewart’s remark about a possible rule change?
Are there any special race conditions for the Liverpool Foxhunter that disbar Victoria from riding in it, and if so what are they?
I’m confused.
Were it left to me (it isn’t), I’d be checking to see whether Ms P is eligible to ride in the 2m handicap hurdle for amateurs and conditionals which usually follows immediately after the Grand National. I think she is.
I haven’t seen the actual race programme for Grand National day this year, but if the big race itself is being delayed until 5.15pm, I wonder if the aforementioned hurdle is going to precede the National rather than follow it this time around. If so, Pendleton’s participation in that would add another intriguing morsel to the pre-National undercard alongside the three Grade 1s also set to take place.
This hurdle race can attract a monster field, with 21 lining up in 2015. Ostensibly Pendleton proved her adaptability where having so many horses around her is concerned with that performance in the Foxhunter; but the narrower, sharper confines of the Mildmay Course, plus the yard or so quicker that this field might be going over the much shorter trip, are between them likely to present her with another different challenge.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
The handicap hurdle in question is the last race on the Saturday card with an advertised off time of 18:10.
This year’s race is described as the Conditional Jockeys’ Handicap Hurdle (Listed) with no mention that it is open to amateurs, which is not to say that it isn’t.
It’s a lot easier to find race conditions applicable to horses rather than riders so, gc, out of pure curiosity what makes you think VP is eligible to ride in this contest?
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