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Is it just me or do we seem to be getting more and more each year and they are getting worse
Councils insist on building more houses
yet cannot see flooding is at its worst, no where for the water to go 
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The way I see it is that Mother Earth is cleansing herself after all the crap, destruction and pollution that us humans have caused
You’d be forgiven for thinking that our climate is changing. If only someone had warned us this might happen.
Storm Darragh rolling in overnight looks to be biggie, particularly in the west. Take care westerners
The increasing number and intensity of storms is just a consequence of climate change; a consequence that climate scientists have been warning us about for years until they’re blue in the face
Deny, ignore, or behave as an ostrich would: the understandable-enough rationalization the mind adopts when faced by an existential threat
Merry Christmas
Edit: You got there before me Richard. Indeed!
And it’s only going to get worse. More frequent and more deadly as we continue to put off changing our attitudes to the way we abuse our planet. This isn’t going to change anytime soon with the incoming leader of the most powerful nation a total climate changing sceptic and India and China believing they have a right to catch up to the West.
We may suffer a little in the UK but Third World countries will be left on their knees if things don’t change. This is when we will see mass scale migration.
Yes the change will be expensive but if we had started to put this in place 40-50 years ago when we started to learn about man-made climate change we would now be well on the way to hopefully saving the planet.
Fortunately for me, I won’t be here when the worst happens, although the thought of struggling in very high temperatures in my 90s/100s if I get that old is not very appealing. The assisted dying bill should be passed by then so it could make it much easier on me.
Nearly hit by flying debris yesterday because of storm Darragh. Agreed about USA and China and India. With the likes of those countries increasing their carbon footprint what we do will seem insignificant.
What doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger.
The devices we are all posting on were probably made in China. Who is responsible for the emissions associated with all the stuff they produce for the West, them or us?
Then have a look at total emissions throughout history, we’ve been polluting heavily for centuries, China and India not so much.
Bah humbug!
Well, almost.Climate change is happening.
Humans are in all probability at least partially responsible, so everyone should be doing something to help. But if only some do something it won’t change a thing.However, blaming it all on man (and woman and children) as a fact, is imo wrong. It’s possible, maybe even probable, but not a fact. Man made Climate Change is just the new religion, it cannot be questioned… And yet the fact is changes in climate have happened throughout time and it is possible a large part of the current trend is because of other things scientists don’t yet know about.
Greta and even scientists have already deleted stuff they told us would be happening by 2025. Scientists do get it wrong sometimes. I was taught at school (that scientists believe) we were in for “another ice age”. Ice caps were much bigger in the early 70’s than the 30’s. It’s not helped by so called “experts” exaggerating the problem and exaggerating what has happened in the hope of changing people’s ways. The often used “since records began” seems an excuse not to go back further in time. To times we actually know what happened, just that there was no detailed data kept. eg The ice belt around the North Pole. Usually talked about as what’s happened since the 60’s when records began… And yet if going back to the 1930’s it would be bloody obvious that the early 70’s was a time of a much bigger ice cap than usual. ie A comparison of today’s ice belt compared to the 1970’s gives a much greater difference than comparing today with the 1930’s. Therefore scientists want to use the 1970’s or “when records began” instead of the 1930’s. Convenient or what?
We should have more North Sea oil, not less. Provided most of it is sold to Britain and nearby countries. That way we won’t have to buy as much oil from all around the world… And travel costs the climate. We should also have our own steel industry, with the necessary power supply made in the UK. In a war we would not have the steel to make our own tanks and aircraft… And it is not that we don’t use steel in industry, just we import it from other countries. Again, travel costs the climate.
Also the belief that what Britain does matters anyway, is nonsense. We are responsible for 1% of the World’s Climate Change. It is the USA, China and India that matter. What we do makes next to FA difference if those three keep polluting at the rate they are. Our businesses will only be at a disadvantage if it’s only us that make the “necessary” climate changes. Running a considerable risk of our even greater economic decline.
The often used thing about how we can profit from being at the forefront of Climate industries might pay off. But it’s a big MIGHT. The exact same argument is no doubt made in every other country in the world. Only one or two will benefit greatly and we cannot be confident of being one of them… And the amount of subsidies USA and Chinese firms get from their governments means our government / industry doesn’t have much hope of competing with them.
I once had an open fire and oil central heating, then year after year the cost of coal and oil went up dramatically. I was living in the countryside (no gas available), with woods in close proximity etc. Coal fires and oil are bad for the climate I was persistently told. The same people that took multiple holidays on jets every year with their kids. I’ve never travelled on a plane in my life… And the absolute worst thing anyone can do in their life time against Climate Change… is to have kids. I have none. So who is the biggest polluter? How does Greta (or any / every “Climate activist”) get to London (or anywhere else) to protest? Hypocrites. Blah, blah, blah.
Value Is EverythingHow is the 1% figure for Britain calculated? Does it account for all the things we import or has that part of the calculation been conveniently outsourced to big bad China and all the other places that make the things that we Westerners want cheaply.
Another thing that never seems to be mentioned is the environmental cost of war. How much damage are is the extraction of raw materials for, and manufacture and transport of, all these weapons being set off left right and centre? Then there’s the environmental cost of rebuilding everything that’s been destroyed. It must be astronomical.
So you are wanting to count all imports into our country as being calculated into our percentage, Richard.
Please bear in mind this also means that since the start of the industrial revolution, everything bad that’s been used in us manufacturing for export (as well as the travel environmental costs) all counting towards other countries percentage instead of ours… And our industry was at the forefront of that industrial revolution, when pollution was at its worst.
Maybe our percentage is less than 1% then.
Value Is EverythingMeasure it one way or measure it the other, either way you’ll find that current emissions dwarf those of the industrial revolution days.
Of course finger pointing at one country or the other is pointless really, the clue is in the phrase we used to use:global warming. The climate makes no allowances for the arbitrary borders we’ve drawn on the land. Global problems require global solutions and that’s one reason little will ever get done about it.
Which brings us onto another phrase that gets used, saving the planet. Don’t worry about the planet, it’ll be just fine (until the sun explodes), we need to save ourselves.
Exactly Richard, a “Global Problem”. Which means if the biggest polluters (USA, China and India) don’t act, then what we do makes absolutely no difference to the problem… And therefore all we would be doing is putting our industry at a massive disadvantage. Forcing our own economic decline.
Value Is EverythingPrecisely why nothing will ever get done. Global problems require global solutions and whilst countries continue to be unable to see beyond the end of their own noses nothing will happen. Everyone’s economy is finished once the brown stuff really starts hitting the fan.
Or as one top scientist put it where we used to get a once in 50 year event are now happening every 10 to 15 years. Self destruction in slow motion. Be laughable if it wasn’t so serious but unless the likes of the us,China and India act then we are doomed as Fraser used to say. You can just hear his lovely Scottish twang as he says it.🤣
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