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"Twitchy" is not an apposite description, Corm.
Those familiar with the dreadful Highlander flims, will know it as "The Quickening".
cold misty mornings, nights drawing in, leaves falling from the trees, tickets booked for the open meeting means only one thing – PROPER RACING’S ON ITS WAY.
anybody know if i can get odds on VODKA BLEU for the paddy power ?
Jumping form….
Horses transferring from the flat turf
Horses alternating between AW and jumping
Horses coming from the provinces in France, Germany, New Zealand
Horses racing in bumpers, then hurdles
Horses moving between hurdling and chasing
Horses coming from PTP in Ireland
Sedgefield, Towcester, Bangor, Ludlow and other idiosyncratic tracks.Fascinating stuff for the fans, but a nightmare for form students.
Much of your list essentially applies only to recent and/or young recruits to the jumping game: difficult territory for the punter indeed.
For me, the key to punting NH is through concentrating on the plethora of mature exposed horses doing the rounds with years of form to analyse.
As for the point about switching between hurdles and chases well thanks to the practice of keeping separate ORs for the two codes ‘switchers’ have long provided a lucrative if small subset of bets e.g when an improved chaser who has risen up the ratings is returned to hurdles off its old hurdle mark.
And as for "idiosyncratic tracks" bring ’em on, along with their specialists. CD form is a particularly valuable asset to the NH horse and often provides ‘value’ to boot.
OK – very good jumps season, enjoyed it.
However, now it’s time for the real stuff.
Gunieas thoughts people?
There is still plenty of real racing yet – don’t forget we have the Punchestown festival starting in 17 days time.
I could add more but the battery on my laptop is about to give out – drat
OK – very good jumps season, enjoyed it.
However, now it’s time for the real stuff.
Gunieas thoughts people?
i know what you mean cormack but over here we still have the punchestown festival i know to some it means nothing but you still get some quality races, and the scotish national isnt that bad either
"Jumps season over" pshaw.
It never ends.
Nor should it!
I’m very much embroiled with researching tomorrow’s quadruple whammy of Market Rasen, Hexham, Southwell and Limerick as I write this, and there’s a whole summer of this lot to go yet!
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
Small matter of the Durham national still to come Corm…..and Punchers festival. Lets not give up on real racing just yet please.
Agree with Cormack, Aintree pretty much ends the jumps season to me it certainly starts to play second fiddle to the flat from here onwards.
Soon be the Craven meeting I always look forward to that.
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the real stuff.
Immature animals trying to keep in a straight line for five furlongs? Horses improving at different rates, due to said immaturity, rendering the formbook almost obsolete? Crooked jockeys and even more crooked trainers? Big races dominated by two groups of billionaire owners? The best horses packed off to stud at the end of the season?
Give me the jumps any day of the week.
the real stuff.
Immature animals trying to keep in a straight line for five furlongs? Horses improving at different rates, due to said immaturity, rendering the formbook almost obsolete? Crooked jockeys and even more crooked trainers? Big races dominated by two groups of billionaire owners? The best horses packed off to stud at the end of the season?
Give me the jumps any day of the week.
What a load of old ****.
OK – very good jumps season, enjoyed it.
However, now it’s time for the real stuff.
Gunieas thoughts people?
Here, here Corm. Its been an enjoyable jumps season but its now in its wind down phase and the almighty flat is upon us.
The 2000 guineas thoughts are on the 2,000 guineas discussion thread. With very little happening in that area, either in the news or in the betting, its a bit of a dead subject (above and beyond what has already been said), there was a little gamble on Jupiter Pluvius after his Workout last Sunday and he appears to emerging as the Coolmore No1for the 2,000. This time last yaer after Holy Roman Emperors withdrawal, they looked to have a bit of a weak hand, but still had a French Guineas 1,3,4 and a St James Palace 1,2,3 so its hard to guage just how strong their team is.
Dermot Weld has his colt Famous Name out in the 2,000 guineas trial at leopardstown tomorrow (who for some odd reason I seen fit to back antepost last season, wouldnt be too confident on that) and he could notch up a win.
The 1,000 guineas is an interesting one at the minute, especially with the leopardstown 1,000 guines trial on tomorrow, it has been an interesting race in the last few years with Virgina Waters going on to win the guineas and Arch Swing going on to record a very good second last year to Finsceal Beo. Jim Bolger’s Lush Lashes was humped last weak and now he is running his dual group1 winning juvenile SAOIRSE ABU is in the 1,000 guineas trial at lepardstown tomorrow (she has been very weak in the 1000 guineas market lately too). It is hard to know what to make of the race, but O’briens filly PSALM has attracted a fair bit of market support for the 1,000 guineas market over trhe last two days and she must be fancied to win.
Other big moves in the 1,000 guineas market are KITTY MATCHAM on Friday, and I still think she will be his main 1,000 guineas horse.
Peter Chapple Hyam hasd a talking horse who has been supported called CAPE AMBER who is a half sister to a decent filly I used to follow called Nyramba and is out of Cape Cross (sire of Ouija Board) so could be anything, but the vibes are that she is good.
Also one of Nayefs first croppers SPACIOUS attracted a decent gamble a while back and has become very much a talking horse, she could have some improvement on her juvenile form and looks a nice sort.
There have been two gambles in the past week on John Dunlops midsummer listed winner, MUTHABARA who looks well fancied (currently has a blue line on oddschecker), and is now the second favorite, if Listen is withdrawn she will become the favorite, mainly through market support and has to be respected.
uggggh at the thought of Punchestown……..and Ayr, Cheltenham, Perth, Sandown and anywhere else where good horses will be asked to race round as an afterthought to their Cheltenham exertions. Have seen enough good horses beaten at Aintree this week (thank God Tidal Bay bucked that trend today) to want the good Flat stuff to start ASAP. I wish I could go somewhere hot for 10 days until the Craven meeting, its so uninspiring ’til then.
I’m very much embroiled with researching tomorrow’s quadruple whammy of Market Rasen, Hexham, Southwell and Limerick
Bar Limerick same here GC, and with confidence somewhat shaken by the princely sum of zilch returned from Aintree, I’m in dire need of some friendly 0-100s to steady the ship.
Evening meetings imminent with a double header from Taunton and Cheltenham (new fixture) to kick the season off
On and on it goes this great war without end
uggggh at the thought of Punchestown……..and Ayr, Cheltenham, Perth, Sandown and anywhere else where good horses will be asked to race round as an afterthought to their Cheltenham exertions.
Ohhhhh there’s far more on offer at each of those venues than you’re making out, Nick, and I think you know that much and are being mischievous.
The overlap of the winter and summer jumps campaigners is very much in progress now – there are numerous animals running tomorrow having what look like first runs back ahead of dry ground campaigns.January or June, the jumps game is unremittingly fascinating to me – and Drone too, by the looks of it.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
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