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Pisolet Noir didn’t enjoy being out front one bit, he will need cover in the future, very green and is better than he displayed, Nicholls was very downbeat about him after but I expect there is more to come.
Not a big fan of the Triumph this season yet, nothing has made me stand up and take note personally
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The wide, open spaces and prominent racing position didn’t bother Pistolet Noir when he beat Barizan, so I can’t see that they’re suddenly not to his liking. Nicholls’s innoculation schedule may have had some effect but, on a line through fourth-placed George Nympton, Pistolet Noir hasn’t come on at all for his previous run.
Time will tell I suppose, but I have no qualms about laying him for the Triumph.
The wide, open spaces and prominent racing position didn’t bother Pistolet Noir when he beat Barizan, so I can’t see that they’re suddenly not to his liking. Nicholls’s innoculation schedule may have had some effect but, on a line through fourth-placed George Nympton, Pistolet Noir hasn’t come on at all for his previous run.
Time will tell I suppose, but I have no qualms about laying him for the Triumph.
Are you saying that the reason for Nicholl’s horses currently running badly is down to them being vaccinated?
According entered at Sandown on Saturday
A couple of my Golfing buddies,who get around a bit have heard glowing reports about this fellow! Very rare from what i can remember is George Strawbridge having a jumper! "Scorned" was his but i think he won the Imperial Cup in the Mellon Colours!
"According" to my sources,its time to get stuck into the rather stinghy 10/1! Having said that,12/1 was the best price i could get on First Bout winning the same race for Mr Henderson!- Total Posts 17716
I believe it was mentioned by someone on the main forum, Sea Pigeon, though I must confess that I don’t know how valid the argument is.
As mentioned above, I still think Advisor looks the best juvenile this year. He has been winning the right races, is in the right yard and his trainer is becoming more enthusiastic as the race drawns on. Have a bit on at bigger prices and he is in a couple of accumulators but 14/1 still looks very fair.
Often with the ante post markets there is a ‘tipping point’ when punters suddenly appreciate that there are few contenders to emerge, the form is set and that suddenly some horses are very overpriced.
Karabak after the Long Walk was an example of this, it was two full days after the Newbury race when people suddenly realised he was an each way diamond at 14/1.
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The wide, open spaces and prominent racing position didn’t bother Pistolet Noir when he beat Barizan, so I can’t see that they’re suddenly not to his liking. Nicholls’s innoculation schedule may have had some effect but, on a line through fourth-placed George Nympton, Pistolet Noir hasn’t come on at all for his previous run.
Time will tell I suppose, but I have no qualms about laying him for the Triumph.
Dangerous game laying a young PN horse.
According to what I either heard on radio or read somehwere Pistolet Noir has been a real headache to PN. When he arrived at Ditchat he was so green he couldn’t believe he had actually beat Barizan. He also said he hasn’t done a tap at home since he arrived and needs more time and possibly further. By the sounds of it he’s been in steady as you go mode.According entered at Sandown on Saturday
A couple of my Golfing buddies,who get around a bit have heard glowing reports about this fellow! Very rare from what i can remember is George Strawbridge having a jumper! "Scorned" was his but i think he won the Imperial Cup in the Mellon Colours!
"According" to my sources,its time to get stuck into the rather stinghy 10/1! Having said that,12/1 was the best price i could get on First Bout winning the same race for Mr Henderson!He was bought out of Freddie Head’s by the Victor Chandler syndicate at Arqana in November TAPK. Been backed from 50’s down by a few people
He was bought out of Freddie Head’s by the Victor Chandler syndicate at Arqana in November TAPK. Been backed from 50’s down by a few people
I have to put my hands up here Irish, i have only got the measly 10/1,its not like the King to go into battle with a "weener" as a sword!
what price have you snaffled, you cunning old Fox? :50’s and downwards is the best way of putting it
Isn’t worth anything unless he wins though.
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He’s being backed a) because he’s owned by the Victor Chandler syndicate, b) because he’s trained by Nicky Henderson and c) because the two combined to win the Triumph last year.
If that’s enough for someone to go in at anything less than 25/1 then I wish them the best of luck.
According has only one piece of flat form that catches the eye – a half-length second to subsequent Group 1 winner Daryakana. At first glance it would appear relatively solid, but given that it was According’s seventh start and only Daryakana’s second, that the winner only does enough in her races and that she progressed rapidly in the second half of the season (as many French flat horses do), it’s fair to say According didn’t run second to the same horse that toppled Spanish Moon at Sha Tin.
By Dalakhani out of a Sadler’s Wells mare, soft ground is going to be a must for According and I can’t see him getting that at the Festival. On flat form he has no better chance than Royal Mix (who has at least run over hurdles) of Paul Nicholls’s, so quite why one is 10/1 and the other 16/1 I don’t know.
Another one to lay all day.
Another one to lay all day.
What do you mean by that Media? Can you explain what laying horses is actually about! what would you lose if you laid a horse at 10/1? and what stake do you lay all day? Fascinating stuff!
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As sentences go, TAPK, the one you have highlighted isn’t all that difficult to decipher.
Given that According has no hurdling form, has (in my opinion) one extremely misleading piece of flat form, won’t get the soft ground he needs at Cheltenham and has no better chance than at least one horse at a much bigger price, I’m happy to lay him, lay him again and lay him some more.
As for how much I’d lose laying him at 10/1, it would depend entirely on the backer’s stake, wouldn’t it?
I’m happy to lay him, lay him again and lay him some more.
As for how much I’d lose laying him at 10/1, it would depend entirely on the backer’s stake, wouldn’t it?
I had a bet with myself you were going to say that! You obviously haven"t laid a horse in your life!
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You’re on a different planet, TAPK.
Quite what my laying habits have to do with you I’m not sure, but what is proving so difficult for you to understand? I may choose to lay According at, for the sake of argument, 10/1, with a view to amassing a liability of £500 (that’s a stake of £50, just in case you’re struggling with the maths). If those odds are snapped up, so strong is my belief that According won’t win the Triumph, I will lay him again at whatever price the market dictates. If he’s now 9.8/1, I’ll lay him at that. If he’s 10.2/1, I’ll lay him at that. Hell, I might even live dangerously and lay him at even bigger odds, just to guarantee my preset liability.
If you want your 50p on – three-figure bet on Mikael D’Haguenet my a*se – be my guest.
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