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no, before that group existed – for that angle, think early 1970s.
So:
the term that came to be spin-translated as “Iron Lady” on the west of the iron curtain was, on the east side of that curtain:
-something probably said in front of the children
-would be known to English speakers through one of The Five and/or an English rock group of the early 1970s
Intriguing
Iron Butterfly were an American group so that’s no help
Emerson Lake & Palmer did a take on Mussorgsky’s ‘Pictures at an Exhibition’
Modest something-or-other?
Mussorgsky, ELP and Pictures at an Exhibition is almost there.
one of the movements has two four-letter words in its title referring to a female ?
Baba Yaga?
She flies around on a giant mortar or broomstick, kidnaps (and presumably eats) small children
(Wikipee
)That’s it.
“Zelazna Baba” is the variant of “Baba Yaga” that was used by the Soviets.
“Zelazna” means iron in the sense of enduring / lived forever in harsh conditions / old and weathered.
“Baba” means crone /witch / evil woman who lives in the woods and fields.
Parents across Eastern Europe tell their children to behave or else Zelazna Baba / Baba Yaga will come and do bad things to them.
The spin-translation “Iron Lady” suggests respect by the Soviets of a serious adversary.
The reality however is that “Zelazna Baba” was a mocking reference that Mrs Thatcher’s threats were to be taken about as seriously as those of a mythical character used to frighten small kids.
And yet the spin-translation has taken on a life of its own.
Oh, I was thinking she may have been called Stalina, a female version of Stalin (Man Of Steel), or Lenina, a female version of Lenin (Man Of Iron).
Interesting Wit, thanks. Wonder what the Eastern Bloc made of the term ‘Iron Curtain’?
The residents of Perth and Dawlish find a home-from-home in this pub, and over there in a corner is Nassim Taleb pondering his glass darkly
The pub’s name please?
Too quick Pompete, well done
Perth (Australia) has two black swans on its coat of arms, and the bird features heavily in the folklore of Western Australia generally
Dawlish (Devon) has a resident population of black swans
Nassim Taleb is author of The Black Swan
If you’re ever in York I recommend lunch – liquid or otherwise – at The Black Swan 23 Peasholme Green
Sorry Drone, I knew the book and Perth so took a guess
During the fine weather last week I was in the garden with a piece of string tied between two garden chairs. I also had with me a piece of wood with notches in and an egg timer.
Q. What was I doing?
[quote="Drone" Wonder what the Eastern Bloc made of the term ‘Iron Curtain’?
I believe someone from Eastern Europe used it before Churchill.
Goebbels.
"Iron Curtain" was a term used to describe the defensive line of Rangers F.C. during the late 1940s and early 1950s. …
During the fine weather last week I was in the garden with a piece of string tied between two garden chairs. I also had with me a piece of wood with notches in and an egg timer.
Q. What was I doing?
Setting a trap for the strawberry thief.?
Blackbeard to conquer the World
Matron, I’ve never forgot to put my watch on as I’ve never worn a watch
But, no I wasn’t making a Sundial.And no it wasn’t anything to do with Strawberries.
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