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- December 18, 2006 at 09:10 #573
Same as before all those with more than one nomination.
December 19, 2006 at 10:57 #33872Voting will conclude this saturday evening (23rd) at 6 pm.
December 19, 2006 at 12:27 #33873Tim Pitt,Jim Bolger and Evan Williams would all be worthy winners.Personally I have voted for Bolger as I thought he played his hand well towards the end of the season.
December 19, 2006 at 12:50 #33874Nicholls is the obvious choice, but i’m disappointed to see only six entries.<br>Can’t even back e/w 1-2-3 :(<br>Shocked to not see Henderson or Pipe in there :o
December 19, 2006 at 13:24 #33875Quote: from Racing Daily on 12:50 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]Nicholls is the obvious choice, but i’m disappointed to see only six entries.<br>Can’t even back e/w 1-2-3 :(<br>Shocked to not see Henderson or Pipe in there :o
Pipe didn’t have a good year last year. His worst in 10 years.
December 19, 2006 at 14:01 #33876Quote: from davidbrady on 1:24 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]
Quote: from Racing Daily on 12:50 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]Nicholls is the obvious choice, but i’m disappointed to see only six entries.<br>Can’t even back e/w 1-2-3 :(<br>Shocked to not see Henderson or Pipe in there :o
Pipe didn’t have a good year last year. His worst in 10 years.<br>
True, those were just examples of who could have also been included. Any problem with Marcus Tregoning and Aiden O’Brien? ;)<br>Pam Sly is in there, so I assume the flat is included.
December 19, 2006 at 14:28 #33877TDK
This poll clearly shows why democracy is overrated.
December 19, 2006 at 15:53 #33878Don’t worry dj. I’m just messin’ wid ya ;)<br>I’m not that pedantic.<br>While Evan Williams has had a very good season, I couldn’t call him top trainer. It has to be Nicholls, be that a rather dull choice, out of that list.
December 19, 2006 at 16:02 #33879Quote: from thedarkknight on 1:50 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]Amazed so many are voting for Pumpkinhead :o
Any Tom, Dick or Harry could train loads of winners with his ammunition imo…<br>
Agreed……..
voted for Evan, he can not only train many winners but he can transform horses that he accquires.
December 19, 2006 at 16:13 #33880TDK,
There must be some reason why he has that ammunition, not every Tom, Dick or Harry could acquire the horses he trains.
JohnJ.
December 19, 2006 at 16:17 #33881You or I, RD, couldn’t afford a horse with Paul Nicholls, sah, sadly.
I tend to agree with TDK here. While he clearly is talented, he hasn’t half got some serious ammunition and all the necessary logistics.
And what did Hobbs say last year? There’s too much b*****ks
talked about the training game.Find hill. Point horse in right direction. Gallop. Repeat.
Pammy Sly, on the other hand, trains for the likes of us, usually with horses found in fields, or hidden at the end of Goffs or the Donny Breeze Up. Pocket change horses destined to be trained near some Cambridgeshire cabbage fields and targeted at Leicester handicaps.
And yet despite this, her horses run consistently. And straight; the market is an excellent guide. She can land gambles. She gets them fit from a layoff. The horses win at a comparatively good percentage. She’s well capable of bringing horses back from the doldrums; and then train them to run up sequences. Flat or jumps, it’s all the same to her.
Oh…and somehow, in the teeth of adversity and against all the odds, Mrs Sly managed to win a British Classic thus keeping the dream alive for all of us commoners who love the sport of kings.
Vote Pam, I reckon.;)
December 19, 2006 at 16:20 #33882Quote: from johnjdonoghue on 4:13 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]TDK,
There must be some reason why he has that ammunition, not every Tom, Dick or Harry could acquire the horses he trains.
JohnJ.<br>
Fair point but it’s like saying that Jose Mourinho is the best manager in England
December 19, 2006 at 16:36 #33883Quote: from Maxilon 5 on 4:17 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]<br>And yet despite this, her horses run consistently. And straight;
Say what you will about Speciosa, but one thing she doesn’t do, is run straight. :biggrin: She weaved so far over the Rowley Mile that her urine sample wasn’t tested for banned substances but for alcohol.
December 19, 2006 at 16:39 #33884Quote: from davidbrady on 4:20 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]
Quote: from johnjdonoghue on 4:13 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]TDK,
There must be some reason why he has that ammunition, not every Tom, Dick or Harry could acquire the horses he trains.
JohnJ.<br>
Fair point but it’s like saying that Jose Mourinho is the best manager in England<br>
Thats not really the point David. Nicholls obviously started like any other trainer in the business and has built his stable and profile up through his career. To turn around and state well any Tom, Dick or Harry could do what he is doing is quite flippant. He obviously has earned the right to train the horses he has, its not like he started day training a stable full of superstars….
JohnJ.<br>
December 19, 2006 at 16:55 #33885It’s quite clear how hungry Nicholls was for success I think.
December 19, 2006 at 21:11 #33886I’m not knocking PN, the guy is obviously one of the best out there – I’m just saying that reams of winners does not necessarily mean that you are the best trainer – I bet if this poll was run over the last 10 years then Martin Pipe wouldn’t win it.
December 19, 2006 at 21:13 #33887Quote: from davidjohnson on 4:55 pm on Dec. 19, 2006[br]It’s quite clear how hungry Nicholls was
Absolutely. You’d never thought he was once a jockey, would you?
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