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- July 10, 2009 at 01:48 #238824
Well done today Mr F, very nice indeed.
July 10, 2009 at 02:10 #238828Well done today Mr F, very nice indeed.
this is the second big win since 22/6/2009,the system takes ages to write all the horses down,then keep checking for non runners
but it does seem to work so far,was giving up slowly but only started with 100 points and betting 20-40 bets a day…….lost nearly half my bank before hitting this win ,but lets see how i get on over the next few days
July 10, 2009 at 03:08 #238835as you know i use http://www.patternform.co.uk
for all my statsfor this threads top two speed raters system i will always use the top two
now i would like to point something out and give you a example..
if you use this site sometimes there are no speed stats,normaly maiden runs but if you come across a race with no speed stats then use the class stats,as a back up
example–newmarket–today
2009-07-09 NEWMARKET (JULY) 2:35 1m 2f – Blue Square Stakes (Heritage Handicap)(Class 2)(3yo 0-105) £49,848 How to use PatternForm | Pace
Finishing Position (> 9th = 0) Win% Runners AgeWei Class Speed Multi RanTo
115- 67 % 1) Aqwaal [10] 3-9-7 24 7
2211- 50 % 2) Firebet [16] 3-9-5 15 7
221213- 33 % 3) Barwell Bridge [14] 3-8-11 6 4
106- 33 % 4) Roman Republic [6] 3-8-10 16
above you can see the stats for todays race,notice only form,%of wins-horse name age and weight and classso you know its a class two race so look for the horses that have ran class 2 and below,or closest to
firebet….roman republic—both ran in class 1 races
firebet won and roman republic came second
just in case you may think this was a one off then ill give you a second example to help
2009-07-09 NEWMARKET (JULY) 2:00 6f – Tnt July Stakes (Group 2) (Colts & Geldings)(Class 1)(2yo) £45,416 How to use PatternForm | Pace
Finishing Position (> 9th = 0) Win% Runners AgeWei Class Speed Multi RanTo
183- 33 % 1) Angel´s Pursuit [8] 2-8-12 5
1- 100 % 2) Arcano [10] 2-8-12 5
26- 0 % 3) Diamond Johnny g [6] 2-8-12
31- 50 % 4) Ghostwing [1] 2-8-12 3
11- 100 % 5) Niran [9] 2-8-12 6 4
2- 0 % 6) Noble Greek [11] 2-8-12
14- 50 % 7) Nosedive [4] 2-8-12 5
511- 67 %
Orpen Grey [3] 2-8-12 8 2
117- 67 % 9) Red Jazz [2] 2-8-12 6 2
5122- 25 % 10) Reignier [7] 2-8-12 3
213- 33 % 11) Tawaabb [5] 2-8-12 4again i had no speed stats to work with so i look at the class rating and no horses have ran a class 1 race,but two have ran a class 2 they are orpen grey and red jazz
both placed 2nd and 3rd
July 10, 2009 at 12:40 #238868opening balance 262.04
back to the top two system
all top two speed raters forecast in every afternoon race of today19 races–19 points bet
July 10, 2009 at 22:41 #239024fridays results
alan brook and sweetheart was the only winning forecast of 10 points………but did swap them round thou as alan brook was to short a fav to ignore
three races had 2nd and third places
red cape happy aniver
dakiyah relative strenght
crackdown soveriegn remedy19 bets
19 forecasts 19 points–10 back minus 9 pointswill continue in to the evening as crap on tele
end of day results
hit two in evening
glamorous spirit–noble storm–110 points
thebes–baron spy–16 points
had three 2nd and third only again

262.04 opening balance
minus 19 add 10 (afternoon) minus 17 points (evening ) add 16 add 110=
362.04 closing balance
July 11, 2009 at 14:24 #239110362.04 opening ballance
all top two horses forecast in all 4 afternoon race
27 races–27 bets–27 points
1 refund
26 bets
two winners
social grace–shes ok–5 points
shaws diamond–baynya–6 points362.04 minus 26 add 11 = 347.04
no evening bets on week end
July 12, 2009 at 14:20 #239251347.04 opening balance
19 races 19 forecasts 19 points
backstage–batchelor lad–coothill–treble 1 point e.w
total bets 21 points
treble paid back 2.02 so thats 2 p profit(woohoo)
no forecasts won
alicia and captain crackers came 1st and second but had them round other way
i need to start introducing filters in order to reduce the losses……….some tracks are performing realy bad so over the next few weeks i will decide on dropping a few tracks until they start performing better…………….stratford today–1 winner 1 placed–14 horses were mussleb is showing 1 in 3 wins
347.04 minus 21 add 2.02 = 328.06
July 13, 2009 at 02:41 #23936615 races in the afternoon
15 races 15 forcasts–15 points
lucky 15 bet
ingleby star—rothsay dancer—chunky lad—boogie dancer
50p line = 7.5 pointsJuly 14, 2009 at 12:35 #239533wow what a day,think is must of been something in the ayr
5 void forecasts at ayr=5 points
lucky 15 returned 4 points
one forecast won candle–ring for time=4.1 points13.1 points
328.06 minus 15 (forecasts)minus 7.5 points (unlucky 15) add 13.1 points=318.66
318.66
tuesdays bets all afternoon races forecast-top two speed raterstoday i have two lists….the top two speed rated………..and the top two fastest,formed and class rated horses
will see if this makes a difference,
July 15, 2009 at 02:01 #23963715 races 15 bets 15 points
only one winning forecast of the afternoon
pseudomyn–long boat keys —returned 21 points
did not bet in evening but yarmouth produced silver prelude—-guto
using the top two speed raters single bets
beverley
3 winners———–4 place only—————18 horses
brighton
1 winner—————-6 place only————-14 horses
southwell
3 winners————4 placed only————-12 horses
yarmouth
3 winners————-4 placed—————-12 horses318.66 minus 15 add 21= 324.66 closing balance
by using the patternform web site and using the top speed rated and class and course and distant winner returned the following results(no bets)
beverley
5 winners——–4 placed—-1 forecast
brighton
3 winners————4 placedto busy to do evening results
July 15, 2009 at 03:27 #239648i missed luscivious and kinigi which were both top speed raters at southwell and both 40 plus on betfair,looking at there form you wouldnt of guessed it…..and no class ratings either ……..i would of gone for don pele so just goes to show that form is not always the best indicator
July 15, 2009 at 17:00 #239697i had a tip last night for secret dancer at uttoxeter
it was 55/1 last night so put a lump onwednesdays bets
19 races–19 bets –19 pointstop two speed rated forecast
lingfield
almuktahem–shakalaka–5 points
swordmans–mohawk star–42 points
uttoxeter
persian warrior–ormond lad……..around wrong way
catterick
paddy bear–ingleby princess—17 points45 points profit on the day
closing balnce 369.36
(must point out a horse called temperence hall which ran at lingfield today,LTO it was 780/1 and 50/1 place on betfair and came 3rd………today it was 25/1 5/1 place and come 2nd)
July 15, 2009 at 21:02 #239720heres the top two speed rated single bets for today
lingfield
4 winners–6 placed only 12 horses
uttoxeter
2 winners—7 placed only——-14 horses
catterick
4 winners–3 placed—-12 horsesevening
kempton
3 placed only 14 horses
worcester
3 winners–6 placed only–12 horsesJuly 16, 2009 at 18:37 #239831thursday afternoon races
20 races–20 bets–20 pointsJuly 16, 2009 at 21:39 #239856afternoon results
carmtmel
anglestone–corinas—-8 points
peacefull means–wensleydale web—-40 points
hamilton
obe gold–racoon—5 points
liecester
angel of fashion–gillburg—43 points
big bound–libel law—-14 pointsopening balance 369.36
minus 20 add 8,40,5,43,14 = 459.36
closing balance 459.36
July 17, 2009 at 00:45 #239871Why don’t any of the CSF prices concur with your cliamed profits?
Leicester 3.50 CSF £14.32
Hamilton 2.50 CSF £4.66
Cartmel 2.30 CSF £9.88
Leicester 2.10 CSF £42.22
Cartmel 5.20 CSF £39.61Kevin
July 17, 2009 at 02:03 #239878Why don’t any of the CSF prices concur with your cliamed profits?
Leicester 3.50 CSF £14.32
Hamilton 2.50 CSF £4.66
Cartmel 2.30 CSF £9.88
Leicester 2.10 CSF £42.22
Cartmel 5.20 CSF £39.61Kevin
i go by my winnings and divide it by the stake, i have loads of bets so its hard going down the list and digging them out…………will check again
i am supposed to use 1 quid but ive moved up since then but kept it at a quid here to save confussions……………..and now im confussed
so if my calculations are wrong i must apologise as this system as only made 90 points in one day and not the 120 i have quoted
i do write the odds down next to the horse in the mornings and may of just times the two odds with out realising………….
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