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  • #238824
    Avatar photoPompete
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    Well done today Mr F, very nice indeed.

    #238828
    mr forecast
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    Well done today Mr F, very nice indeed.

    this is the second big win since 22/6/2009,the system takes ages to write all the horses down,then keep checking for non runners

    but it does seem to work so far,was giving up slowly but only started with 100 points and betting 20-40 bets a day…….lost nearly half my bank before hitting this win ,but lets see how i get on over the next few days

    #238835
    mr forecast
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    as you know i use http://www.patternform.co.uk
    for all my stats

    for this threads top two speed raters system i will always use the top two

    now i would like to point something out and give you a example..

    if you use this site sometimes there are no speed stats,normaly maiden runs but if you come across a race with no speed stats then use the class stats,as a back up

    example–newmarket–today
    2009-07-09 NEWMARKET (JULY) 2:35 1m 2f – Blue Square Stakes (Heritage Handicap)(Class 2)(3yo 0-105) £49,848 How to use PatternForm | Pace
    Finishing Position (> 9th = 0) Win% Runners AgeWei Class Speed Multi RanTo
    115- 67 % 1) Aqwaal [10] 3-9-7 24 7
    2211- 50 % 2) Firebet [16] 3-9-5 15 7
    221213- 33 % 3) Barwell Bridge [14] 3-8-11 6 4
    106- 33 % 4) Roman Republic [6] 3-8-10 16
    above you can see the stats for todays race,notice only form,%of wins-horse name age and weight and class

    so you know its a class two race so look for the horses that have ran class 2 and below,or closest to

    firebet….roman republic—both ran in class 1 races

    firebet won and roman republic came second

    just in case you may think this was a one off then ill give you a second example to help

    2009-07-09 NEWMARKET (JULY) 2:00 6f – Tnt July Stakes (Group 2) (Colts & Geldings)(Class 1)(2yo) £45,416 How to use PatternForm | Pace
    Finishing Position (> 9th = 0) Win% Runners AgeWei Class Speed Multi RanTo
    183- 33 % 1) Angel´s Pursuit [8] 2-8-12 5
    1- 100 % 2) Arcano [10] 2-8-12 5
    26- 0 % 3) Diamond Johnny g [6] 2-8-12
    31- 50 % 4) Ghostwing [1] 2-8-12 3
    11- 100 % 5) Niran [9] 2-8-12 6 4
    2- 0 % 6) Noble Greek [11] 2-8-12
    14- 50 % 7) Nosedive [4] 2-8-12 5
    511- 67 % 8) Orpen Grey [3] 2-8-12 8 2
    117- 67 % 9) Red Jazz [2] 2-8-12 6 2
    5122- 25 % 10) Reignier [7] 2-8-12 3
    213- 33 % 11) Tawaabb [5] 2-8-12 4

    again i had no speed stats to work with so i look at the class rating and no horses have ran a class 1 race,but two have ran a class 2 they are orpen grey and red jazz

    both placed 2nd and 3rd

    #238868
    mr forecast
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    opening balance 262.04

    back to the top two system
    all top two speed raters forecast in every afternoon race of today

    19 races–19 points bet

    #239024
    mr forecast
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    fridays results

    alan brook and sweetheart was the only winning forecast of 10 points………but did swap them round thou as alan brook was to short a fav to ignore

    three races had 2nd and third places
    red cape happy aniver
    dakiyah relative strenght
    crackdown soveriegn remedy

    19 bets
    19 forecasts 19 points–10 back minus 9 points

    will continue in to the evening as crap on tele

    end of day results

    hit two in evening
    glamorous spirit–noble storm–110 points :o
    thebes–baron spy–16 points :D

    had three 2nd and third only again :twisted:

    262.04 opening balance

    minus 19 add 10 (afternoon) minus 17 points (evening ) add 16 add 110=

    362.04 closing balance

    #239110
    mr forecast
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    362.04 opening ballance

    all top two horses forecast in all 4 afternoon race

    27 races–27 bets–27 points

    1 refund
    26 bets
    two winners
    social grace–shes ok–5 points
    shaws diamond–baynya–6 points

    362.04 minus 26 add 11 = 347.04

    no evening bets on week end

    #239251
    mr forecast
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    347.04 opening balance

    19 races 19 forecasts 19 points

    backstage–batchelor lad–coothill–treble 1 point e.w

    total bets 21 points

    treble paid back 2.02 so thats 2 p profit(woohoo)

    no forecasts won

    alicia and captain crackers came 1st and second but had them round other way

    i need to start introducing filters in order to reduce the losses……….some tracks are performing realy bad so over the next few weeks i will decide on dropping a few tracks until they start performing better…………….stratford today–1 winner 1 placed–14 horses were mussleb is showing 1 in 3 wins

    347.04 minus 21 add 2.02 = 328.06

    #239366
    mr forecast
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    15 races in the afternoon

    15 races 15 forcasts–15 points

    lucky 15 bet
    ingleby star—rothsay dancer—chunky lad—boogie dancer
    50p line = 7.5 points

    #239533
    mr forecast
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    wow what a day,think is must of been something in the ayr

    5 void forecasts at ayr=5 points
    lucky 15 returned 4 points
    one forecast won candle–ring for time=4.1 points

    13.1 points

    328.06 minus 15 (forecasts)minus 7.5 points (unlucky 15) add 13.1 points=318.66

    318.66
    tuesdays bets all afternoon races forecast-top two speed raters

    today i have two lists….the top two speed rated………..and the top two fastest,formed and class rated horses

    will see if this makes a difference,

    #239637
    mr forecast
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    15 races 15 bets 15 points

    only one winning forecast of the afternoon

    pseudomyn–long boat keys —returned 21 points

    did not bet in evening but yarmouth produced silver prelude—-guto

    using the top two speed raters single bets
    beverley
    3 winners———–4 place only—————18 horses
    brighton
    1 winner—————-6 place only————-14 horses
    southwell
    3 winners————4 placed only————-12 horses
    yarmouth
    3 winners————-4 placed—————-12 horses

    318.66 minus 15 add 21= 324.66 closing balance

    by using the patternform web site and using the top speed rated and class and course and distant winner returned the following results(no bets)

    beverley
    5 winners——–4 placed—-1 forecast
    brighton
    3 winners————4 placed

    to busy to do evening results :oops:

    #239648
    mr forecast
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    i missed luscivious and kinigi which were both top speed raters at southwell and both 40 plus on betfair,looking at there form you wouldnt of guessed it…..and no class ratings either ……..i would of gone for don pele so just goes to show that form is not always the best indicator

    #239697
    mr forecast
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    i had a tip last night for secret dancer at uttoxeter
    it was 55/1 last night so put a lump on

    wednesdays bets
    19 races–19 bets –19 points

    top two speed rated forecast
    lingfield
    almuktahem–shakalaka–5 points
    swordmans–mohawk star–42 points
    uttoxeter
    persian warrior–ormond lad……..around wrong way
    catterick
    paddy bear–ingleby princess—17 points

    45 points profit on the day

    closing balnce 369.36

    (must point out a horse called temperence hall which ran at lingfield today,LTO it was 780/1 and 50/1 place on betfair and came 3rd………today it was 25/1 5/1 place and come 2nd)

    #239720
    mr forecast
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    heres the top two speed rated single bets for today

    lingfield
    4 winners–6 placed only 12 horses
    uttoxeter
    2 winners—7 placed only——-14 horses
    catterick
    4 winners–3 placed—-12 horses

    evening
    kempton
    3 placed only 14 horses
    worcester
    3 winners–6 placed only–12 horses

    #239831
    mr forecast
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    thursday afternoon races
    20 races–20 bets–20 points

    #239856
    mr forecast
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    afternoon results
    carmtmel
    anglestone–corinas—-8 points
    peacefull means–wensleydale web—-40 points
    hamilton
    obe gold–racoon—5 points
    liecester
    angel of fashion–gillburg—43 points
    big bound–libel law—-14 points

    opening balance 369.36

    minus 20 add 8,40,5,43,14 = 459.36

    closing balance 459.36

    #239871
    KevinTHFC
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    Why don’t any of the CSF prices concur with your cliamed profits?

    Leicester 3.50 CSF £14.32
    Hamilton 2.50 CSF £4.66
    Cartmel 2.30 CSF £9.88
    Leicester 2.10 CSF £42.22
    Cartmel 5.20 CSF £39.61

    Kevin

    #239878
    mr forecast
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    Why don’t any of the CSF prices concur with your cliamed profits?

    Leicester 3.50 CSF £14.32
    Hamilton 2.50 CSF £4.66
    Cartmel 2.30 CSF £9.88
    Leicester 2.10 CSF £42.22
    Cartmel 5.20 CSF £39.61

    Kevin

    i go by my winnings and divide it by the stake, i have loads of bets so its hard going down the list and digging them out…………will check again

    i am supposed to use 1 quid but ive moved up since then but kept it at a quid here to save confussions……………..and now im confussed

    so if my calculations are wrong i must apologise as this system as only made 90 points in one day and not the 120 i have quoted

    i do write the odds down next to the horse in the mornings and may of just times the two odds with out realising………….

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