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I don’t know the exact figure, but its clearly been done for money – or if not its even more worrying.
I am not "putting a price on a word" Ginge – for one, I didn’t start the thread so it is more than me concerned, and for two its not "a word" which is concerning.
A prestigious race has now been reduced to a glorified Chelt run around. Shocking.
A prestigious race has now been reduced to a glorified Chelt run around. Shocking.
It’s only a name PC, nothing else has changed.
Value Is EverythingI wish there was an icon for slapping my forehead repeatedly with the palm of my hand.
I wish there was an icon for slapping my forehead repeatedly with the palm of my hand.
This was the best one I could find.
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I feel the same PC, about people who refuse to answer a simple question or explain their own opinion.
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Is it worth alianating important sponsers or not?
Value Is EverythingI would rather "alienate" (debatable) a sponsor than remove yet more of our history and prestige. It is very short term – I would go as far as saying I cannot see The Reynoldstown retaining its prestige under its new ‘Trial’ status.
You must be on a wind up – what’s next the ‘Dunkin Donuts Golden Sprinkle’ (Registered as the Chelt Gold Cup)?
You say "its only a name" – that’s the whole bloody point!
I would rather "alienate" (debatable) a sponsor than remove yet more of our history and prestige. It is very short term – I would go as far as saying I cannot see The Reynoldstown retaining its prestige under its new ‘Trial’ status.
You must be on a wind up – what’s next the ‘Dunkin Donuts Golden Sprinkle’ (Registered as the Chelt Gold Cup)?
You say "its only a name" – that’s the whole bloody point!
We shall see PC.
"Our history matters, p.. off RSA, s.d your Ascot and Cheltenham money, we can do without you, we ain’t gonna change a couple of words"!
Keeping a name is no guarrantee of maintaining "prestige", if prize money is not maintained then quality of horse will drop and prestige drops; with connections going elsewhere. Using Racing Post results – Under Sodexo "Reynoldstown" prize money hit £23,240 in 2009, then dropped over £9,000 in two years to £14,082 in 2011, similar 2012 before recovering slightly in their final year. RSA’s first sponsership marginally short of 2013.
"RSA Trial" is at the moment not even the most important race of an Ascot card on a middling Saturday. It can not be compared with changing the name of the best race of the year.
Rest assured PC, even I’d be against that and I’d join you on the picket line! 
Value Is EverythingWhoever sponsors a race and puts up some of the prize money deserves some exposure. My main point of contention was the unoriginal race name and the picture these "trial" races paint of the NH season….all roads lead to 4 days in March.
For example the Darley July Cup is perfectly acceptable to me. Without a sponsor it would revert to the July Cup. Not sure why all graded races can’t follow that model.
The racing "narrative" is something to cherish. Yes it can be tweaked but IMO there’s been a fair bit of unnecessary changes in recent years.
Whoever sponsors a race and puts up some of the prize money deserves some exposure. My main point of contention was the unoriginal race name and the picture these "trial" races paint of the NH season….all roads lead to 4 days in March.
For example the Darley July Cup is perfectly acceptable to me. Without a sponsor it would revert to the July Cup. Not sure why all graded races can’t follow that model.
The racing "narrative" is something to cherish. Yes it can be tweaked but IMO there’s been a fair bit of unnecessary changes in recent years.
If sponsership money can be maintained OD, then I very much agree with you. Just not sure it can be with so many sports chasing sponsership money.
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I think having the ‘festival’ as the hub of the NH season, with big races throughout the season leading to Cheltenham is a good way to encourage 16-24 year olds into the sport. It’s a hard sport to get into with so many different types of races and the vast array of grades. If you’re new to the sport it’s incredibly difficult to asses which races can produce potential stars and which races most likely wont.
I don’t have time to go into detail on the matter as I’m heading out in a minute but it’s something I believe the BHA have to strongly consider when looking at how to keep the sport in the eyes of the public, young people want a ‘final’ so to speak, it gives other races a meaning. I know the old-schoolers won’t see it this way but I think it’s the way the modern world is.
I’ve had a look back to 1988 – anyone care to have a guess how many winners of the Reynoldstown followed up in the RSA?
No googling!
I’ve had a look back to 1988 – anyone care to have a guess how many winners of the Reynoldstown followed up in the RSA?
No googling!
Hate to ask you to explain PC, but is there a point to your interesting statistic?
Value Is EverythingI don’t see what the fuss is about, majority of people will still call it the Reynoldstown.
At the end of the day it is what it is, which is a trial race.
No owner ever buys a horse and thinks I want to win the Reynoldstown….
I’ve had a look back to 1988 – anyone care to have a guess how many winners of the Reynoldstown followed up in the RSA?
No googling!
Hate to ask you to explain PC, but is there a point to your interesting statistic?
I was just wondering how much of a trial it really was, and naturally curiosity took over.
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