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    Avatar photoGodolphinArabian
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    How did this race become a workout race for coolmore its worth<b>€725,000</b> to winner why does it not appeal to many trainers?

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    Avatar photoBachelors Hall
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    Because Coolmore have utterly saturated the middle distance breed?… And the timing of the Irish Derby doesn’t corelate with the training programmes…

    Most operations with top class horses don’t need the prize money. They want prestige.

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    trapper john
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    It’s a shame this race has turned into an absolute joke 5 runner race for that pot of money I just don’t understand it

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    Avatar photoIan
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    Because Coolmore have utterly saturated the middle distance breed?… And the timing of the Irish Derby doesn’t corelate with the training programmes…
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    I agree with that. To be honest I don’t like seeing the Epsom Derby winner going for the Irish Derby for me it detracts from the Eclipse and King George I’d rather see the Derby winner go to those races and take on the older horses.

    #484245
    Avatar photostevecaution
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    Will the current sponsors want to keep throwing money at the tripe we saw put forward as a "Classic" today?

    I think I would be looking for something better for my money.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #484248
    edinahib
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    Hardly coolmores fault that trainers don’t target the race. It’s only recently that some trainers haven’t sent their horses there. Most of the middle distance greats have done the derby double but for stallion purposes owners want rather to win the eclipse and the international to enhance breeding prospects. As for cool more saturating the field the horses are there to buy and did not a 5 million pound horse not win in France last week not owned by coolore. The date of the Irish derby hasn’t changed just what owners want to do with their horses has. Great that Australia turned up and hardly the horses fault few turned up. Most we’re scared off unfortunately.

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    Avatar photoCharlesOlney
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    Do you know what would have been interesting, and if I owned the horse I would have seriously considered it, Taghrooda running today. That would have thrown the cat among the pigeons and she would have had a great chance. Balanchine won the Oaks and then Irish Derby in 1994, I don’t know who if anyone had attempted it since.

    #484290
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    Watched a video on Youtube the 1968 Irish Derby with Ribocco beating Sir Ivor and 22 runners thank you very much. What happened?

    #484295
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    Do you know what would have been interesting, and if I owned the horse I would have seriously considered it, Taghrooda running today. That would have thrown the cat among the pigeons and she would have had a great chance. Balanchine won the Oaks and then Irish Derby in 1994, I don’t know who if anyone had attempted it since.

    Salsabil also won the Oaks and then the Irish Derby in 1990.
    I agree I would have loved to have seen Taghrooda line up but unfortunately it was never likely to happen.

    #484298
    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    My major gripe is knowing that Australia is going to be bungled off to stud at the end of the season :(

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    My major gripe is knowing that Australia is going to be bungled off to stud at the end of the season :(

    Don’t worry; he’ll soon be replaced by "the best we’ve ever had".

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    andyod
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    Don’t be so sure.Aidan needs four year olds in order to have rides which Joseph can do the weight for.He is finding it difficult to do 9 stone.

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