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    Avatar photoGoldikova
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    I watched a bit and will watch the whole interview when they re-run it later on. I don’t come from the old school racing, having only taken a keen interest in the past few years. I must admit i couldn’t see the fuss about Cecil, i didn’t even think he was the charmer people made out. However, after hearing him recently and today on ATR, i’ve been quickly converted. He may be well to do and priveledged and all the rest of it, but his feet are firmly on the ground. I hope next season starts like the last one ended. Would i be right in saying he has a couple of neat fillys for next season ?

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    He does indeed Goldi.

    Kithonia and Timepiece are his ‘Oaks prospects’.

    He’s also got a cracking sprint filly in Bouvardia, who stays in training at 4, along with Midday.

    Hopefully next year will be a cracking year for Henry

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    Let’s hope he has another great year, he’s very much a personal hero of mine.

    On the subject of sprinters what would be the best sprinters he’s trained? He’s not had that many has he, tended to get sent staying, classic types I suppose.

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    A legend.

    A brilliant trainer and a thoroughly decent human being, who has had a helluva lot to put up with during the past few years.

    The Mercer and (especially) the Cauthen years stand out for me.

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #265412
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    Top top trainer and the first trainer i ever really heard of tbh……….remember seeing him as a youngster at Yarmouth (in his beige suit) when a 2-y-o of his ran called Ginistrelli!!

    #265415
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    Mr Cecil is one of my favourite trainers. I agree with Himself that the Cecil/Cauthen partnership were the years I recall most fondly.

    Of the horses he trained – Oh So Sharp, Indian Skimmer, Bosra Sham, Ardross and Precocious are the ones that always stick in my mind.

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    On the subject of sprinters what would be the best sprinters he’s trained? He’s not had that many has he, tended to get sent staying, classic types I suppose.

    As Henry stated in the interview, he hasn’t really had many sprinting types over the years. Pursuit Of Love would have won the July Cup with anything like a clear run and Gayane was touched off by Ajdal in the same race in 1987. Salieri was a top seven furlong performer, as was Salse, while Garah and Gwydion were both very good sprinting fillies; the latter also dam of Enrique, of course.

    Precocious would possibly have been the best of them but got injured and didn’t run again after hacking up by six lengths in the Gimcrack.

    Overall, it was a decent interview but didn’t really go into enough depth for Cecil fans like me. It was also quite sad to see the great man himself unable to recall the name of Old Vic and disappointing that Chapman thought that Vacarme had been disqualified from the Champagne Stakes, even though he’d supposedly watched the tape the previous evening.

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    Henry Cecil has always been something of a hero of mine.

    When I started watching this sport as a nine year old, I would always follow his horses. A legendary trainer and the greatest trainer of a filly I’ve ever seen.

    Dushyantor would arguably have won The Derby back in ’96 but for being hampered at a crucial stage. I can still see him flying late and fast with his tongue hanging out.

    Of course, Bosra Sham stands out for me. Her fragile feet were well documented, but the ATR interview made you appreciate just how good she was and how well he handled her.

    He said the only time he had her 100% was for the Champion Stakes when she destroyed Halling. She quite literally won the 1000 guineas on three legs.

    A truly great man.

    #265476
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    I Agree great Man
    A Great horseman.

    A Great Mentor.

    #265493
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    A legend.

    A brilliant trainer and a thoroughly decent human being, who has had a helluva lot to put up with during the past few years.

    The Mercer and (especially) the Cauthen years stand out for me.

    The Cauthen years were different class!You had to be there!"Henry the Lion"!

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    i think he once said you have to almost live with the horse to train it properly..
    no wonder with all he had going on that his horses form was a bit patchy..
    now he seems to be in recovery im hopeful, mind you, you never know wich are his best fillys??
    remember hughes on his OAKS filly and durkan winning the race!.
    willie carson said hes the best trainer of fillys EVER..
    with the situation in dubai lets hope he can come back to the top of the tree..
    i put him second only to J.DUNLOP as my favorite flat trainer..

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    The interview is on the ATR site for those of you who missed the boat. It comes in 5 parts, and worth the watch for any enthusiast. I think after watching the interview that some owners should maybe show a little more loyalty, not just to jockeys but especially to trainers. It’s a good job Henry Cecil(did you know he’s Scottish?) kept the faith with regards to his own ability as a top trainer when the horses weren’t being sent to his stable.

    Here are some horses of his i think are worth looking out for in the upcoming season :-

    aviate
    timepiece
    bullet train
    Creese
    Jacqueline Quest
    Kithonia
    principal role
    Protaras
    Rigidity
    Tomintoul Singer
    Walk On Water

    #269622
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    top class feature from the FREE attheraces channel,compare this with greedy ruk charging £20 to watch nothing!
    watching it makes you wonder if flat racing was a lot better in the 80s?

    #269704
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    top class feature from the FREE attheraces channel

    Remind me how you get it without having to pay out any money.

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    It was also quite sad to see the great man himself unable to recall the name of Old Vic.

    I think Old Vic was overshadowed by Nashwan and was not really given the respect he deserved and I was always disappointing Cecil never took Nashwan on in the Epsom Derby. Oddly enough he turned out to be a top NH sire.

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