August 19, 2006 at 06:42 #2898Sailing ShoesMember
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Anyone got thoughts on this race – how the draw will pan out etc…August 19, 2006 at 07:36 #75612AnonymousInactive
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Dandy Nicholl’s thoughts on the draw, form RP online:
"They say you want to be drawn the far side but I think people get confused about what the best draw is.
I don’t think it matters where you’re drawn – you need to be where the pace is.
A good pace can carry you along and then it’s easier to pick up and win
Maybe Pieter Brueghel can give those on the nearside enough of a tow for Ice Planet to repeat the dose?August 19, 2006 at 07:46 #75613davidjohnsonMember
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I would want to be high or low, despite what EC’s stats suggest, I think Reet Hard (Dandy Nicholls actually) makes the pertinent point. I think the ground has come right for Coleorton Dancer. He shaped well on all 3 of his starts this year, going off too quick in the Victoria Cup last time. Slight concern he may need the run but price compensates that risk at around 20/1.August 19, 2006 at 08:00 #75614
I know some horses have run very well from a low draw(including PB) but has any horse ever won this from a low draw ?August 19, 2006 at 08:41 #75615
thats my Peter Brueghel/ Coloerton Dancer bets down unless they switch at start :biggrin: what a mug i am
(Edited by Dandy "Drawmeister" Nicholls at 9:42 am on Aug. 19, 2006)<br>
(Edited by empty wallet at 9:43 am on Aug. 19, 2006)August 19, 2006 at 08:58 #75616KevinMember
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Had a bet on Fantasy Believer drawn 9. Knew about the draw bias but do not put in the work these days. Just playing really.August 19, 2006 at 09:04 #75617ArtemisParticipant
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Agree with you that high is best, EC, especially with give in the ground. I’ve gone for Fantasy Believer and hope Kevin Darley takes him across to that side.August 19, 2006 at 09:16 #75618
I’m not bothered what yer say about draw EC, PB gonna tow CD all way until last fifty yards and then CD is gonna pounce on him to win by 1L and if that don’t happen i’ve backed two drawn high :biggrin:August 19, 2006 at 09:22 #75619
Don’t dislike EC, but she’s not for me , like em wiv some meat on- Lydia :cool: now there’s a woman ;)August 19, 2006 at 10:51 #75620cormack15Keymaster
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This is what it says on the Sporting Life’s ‘draw bias’ page (you can find this by clicking on the ‘draw bias’ link under ‘Helpful links’ on the left hand side of this page) –
RIPON: Low number draw favoured on the sprint course except when the going is soft or heavy.August 19, 2006 at 10:53 #75621davidjohnsonMember
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Stav and EC
You are both good contributors on here but why, if someone disagrees with you, do you have to turn the threads into a petty mess?August 19, 2006 at 12:09 #75622sberryMember
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EC, please just read what you’ve put up over the past 2 days, if you don’t see something a liitle sad, a little bitter and something 99% biased you need to have another look. it seems to me you take things far too seriously. i can’t be arsed to point it all out, it is there to see. i have supported and applauded your calls and right to make them before but remember a similar response to what DJ has just made to previous posts and the answer was the same then, "it’s not me sir, it was him". why do we only critically analyse a race when we lose ? why do we not do the same when we win, trying to identify the many times we were lucky, because we won not because we were right but because others were unlucky or didn’t have the race run for them whereas we did, etc – i don’t remember seeing any of these threads before but i have seen many of these and the one like yesterday’s. i honestly have no axe to grind with anyone here and would still say i read your pre-race analyses more closely than others and that’s because i want to see what you do say. but i do think you have some serious bees in your bonnet mate and the continual ‘solution’ of inviting someone to ban you is an example. i’ve been guilty of inappropriate jokes and comments many times before and i admit it but i like my racing and i like a laugh as well. as for this forum, i really do give up, i don’t need banning, i can and will just not bother using it anymore, there are others out there not quite as depressing.
each to their own and good luck.August 20, 2006 at 07:39 #75623seabirdParticipant
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Although the majority of the field went far-side, the first six home were drawn…….12,7,8,6,16,21. So being drawn low wasn’t that big a disadvantage, or was it? Traps 1, 2,4 and 5 were out the back having stayed stand-side, connections will be wishing they had crossed over as well!
Any comments from the draw experts?
ColinAugust 20, 2006 at 08:40 #75624
Hard to win( almost impossible) on the stand side Colin, but never eliminate a horse because of it’s draw alone, but lets hope the layers continue to do it ;)
(Edited by empty wallet at 9:49 am on Aug. 20, 2006)August 20, 2006 at 12:09 #75625MauriceParticipant
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Crossing over was the answer and the result would have been quite different if the bottom half all came up the stands rail.
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