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  • #14246
    Avatar photoSoba
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    What went on is this race, can anyone enlighten me?

    I watched the next race and I saw that the dreaded screens were up at the second last, which I thought was strange seeing as though the previous race was some time past. Hopefully if a horse was badly injured it was not suffering for that length of time surely? Then when I checked it on the RP site it said all mention of things, second last fence omitted, then two more fences omitted in the back, only one finisher and then a stewards enquiry! What on earth happened there?

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    Didn’t look good at all for the horse that fell, it was a distance clear and going to win but fell really badly. :cry:

    That left the favourite in front a distance clear and then that shipped the jockey at the same fence.

    The only other which was still running was miles behind but on coming up to the fence was waved round it by what looked like an official because there was obviously a horse laid motionless, a jockey which had just been shipped and a woman who had gone onto the course to go to the horse that wasn’t moving.

    The jockey did superbly I thought to firstly see the bloke waving him round the fence and then to steer the horse round it and go onto finish, it could have been carnage had he not gone round it.

    The enquiry was because the horse that was the only finisher missed that fence out. I think the decision to let the result stand was common sense and the correct decision.

    All the horses in the race apart from the unfortunate one which fell were absolutely out on their feet…

    #279486
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    The news at 4:45pm was that Orana Conti was still alive and may have escaped serious injury. Looks like the horse got up.

    Still was being treated by vets mind.

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    I do agree that the decision to allow Ringsend Rose keep the race was the correct one — from a viewpoint of fairness if nothing else.

    But from a strict interpretation of the rules does not a horse have to jump any fence that is not signposted with arrow or dolled-off. And I guess it could be argued that since both Orana Conti and Moulin de la Croix (sp?) jumped the fence in question, did not Ringsend have an unfair advantage in not having to jump it.

    In the final analysis tho’, I’m pleased that Ringsend and Jimmy Derham were awarded the win.

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    Totally agree that the winner should have kept the race. There were two prone horse lying on the ground as well as jockeys, vets and other racecourse staff so the sensible decision was to wave Ringsandroses around the fence in case he also fell and added to all the confusion.

    #279494
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    That’s encouraging news, RedRiot. I was certain of the worst!

    Incidentally, any opinions on the circumstances of that woman (doctor, vet or whatever she was?) running onto the course?
    Inviting disaster were her actions, were they not? Highly likely but that for the evasive response by Derham she may well have been struck into by Ringsend Rose.

    #279496
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    It was suggested on ATR that the rules do state all obstacles have to be jumped but there is also a rule that allows the jockey to avoid if there is good reason.

    Common sense prevailed in terms of the result.

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    That’s encouraging news, RedRiot. I was certain of the worst!

    Absolutely! Me too.

    Really hopeful the horse is ok…

    #279501
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    Racing Post now saying she was put down.

    #279504
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    Oh that’s really awful news my comiserations to all connections, the unfortunate down-side to our sport.

    #279510
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    100% bloodsport there today. Sickening. Disgusting. Plenty of these clowns on horseback leave school at 14 for a reason it seems. Wish they would grow some semblance of a brain from somewhere and cease to ask obviously exhausted horses to crash and fall to their death’s.

    Shame on all concerned. :evil:

    #279513
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    Sometimes this forum seems like an AnimalAid propaganda site under a different skin.
    "Bloodsport", "Sickening", Disgusting", ???
    No need for such emotive language in-my-opinion.

    #279514
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    Totally agree hoofhearted. no-one likes horses being killed but that last response was way over the top.

    #279515
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    Although CR’s language is emotive, the thing is races like the 2.55 are a poor advertisement for the sport and I don’t simply mean because the horse had to be put down, bad as that is.

    To be fair Orano Conti was the only horse that did not show any signs of fatigue.

    Just what purpose is served putting these longer races on in such conditions.

    Horses are strung out and as today showed a horse won that has never been nearer than 40l to a winner in it’s previous appearances under NH rules.

    #279516
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    Didn’t look good at all for the horse that fell, it was a distance clear and going to win but fell really badly. :cry:

    That left the favourite in front a distance clear and then that shipped the jockey at the same fence.

    The only other which was still running was miles behind but on coming up to the fence was waved round it by what looked like an official because there was obviously a horse laid motionless, a jockey which had just been shipped and a woman who had gone onto the course to go to the horse that wasn’t moving.

    The jockey did superbly I thought to firstly see the bloke waving him round the fence and then to steer the horse round it and go onto finish, it could have been carnage had he not gone round it.

    The enquiry was because the horse that was the only finisher missed that fence out. I think the decision to let the result stand was common sense and the correct decision.

    All the horses in the race apart from the unfortunate one which fell were absolutely out on their feet…

    Thanks Zam for that detailed account, appreciated. Terrible news about the outcome of the stricken horse though, she must have been much loved to have had the attentions of the vet for that length of time, some cases are sadly dealt with an awful lot quicker than needs be sometimes. As for Cavelinos remark, I didn’t see the race as mentioned but to be fair it looked appalling ground there today, very close to unraceable and I would have hoped that common sense would prevail in those conditions as to if your horse was floundering then to pull up was then the orders given by the trainers. I take it that was not the case in some instances? Anyhow, whatever the opinions of some this is a forum to discuss them and each and every one here is entitled to express theirs. All round a sad day at Chepstow it seems.

    #279517
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    I’d somewhat agree with Cav though maybe not so strongly in wording. Those horses could barely raise their legs let alone jump a fence turning for home. It wasn’t nice to see and horses shouldn’t be subjected to jumping fences in such conditions.

    #279518
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    There were 66 runners at Chepstow today and 21 of them were eventually pulled up, not sure how many deaths but there has been 1 confirmed. The most worring aspect was that the NH Flat race, inexpieranced younger NH horses were asked to ride a full circuit, none were pulled up.

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