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Owners pay a considerable sum to even get their horse to the racecourse. The chances of having a moderate animal are greater than average. Most owners do not buy a racehorse simply because they love animals, they are hoping for some return on their investment.
Simply put; horses do not run for the benefit of the ordinary punter.
Gambling is merely a financial transaction of opinions. A punter usually has a single opinion, bookmakers have multiple opinions. Some people find it hard to accept that their opinion has been proved wrong.
Of course every single horse that runs in every race in the UK or Ireland is sent out to win, to run completely on its merrits and every jockey tries his best and hardest to achieve the best possible place.
Of course
Bad jockey’s, slow horses and bent trainners!! Thats all mythical!!
The racing post should have a new symbol on the racecard!! T or NT, ask the trainner to delcare their intentions when they enter the horse!! Cant see it catching on mind!!
I sense a touch of sarcasm in you’re post. So the big question is with no one holding a gun to your head, why do you gamble?
By the way the gun bit is a metaphor.
Horseracing is not the only sport I gamble on, I enjoy gambling! Also I have learnt in the last 3 or 4 years since I really started following the sport the sort of races, horses and trainners to avoid. Had my fingers burnt plenty of times at the start. If only all horses ran to form it wouldnt be as difficult now would it. I would agree with Phil I dont bet as much on the flat anymore. Not nearly as much as before anyway. Thats not to say there isnt dodgy goings on in the NH scene too but I think the flat is alot more open to corruption.
And also just because I am a realist who knows some horses are stopped dosent mean that you cant love the sport. Peddlers Cross, Hurricane fly, Sizing Europe, Yeats, Frankel, Ballabriggs, Sea the Stars and many more great horses are why I love racing not to mention the great festivals, Cheltenhman, Aintree, Pucnhestown, Ascot, Goodwood and so on.
Theres much more about racing I enjoy, if i didnt I wouldnt follow it. It has its dark side too though. As do most sports. If racing was straight then whats with all these tips, whispers and gambles on animals with no form. A sly good word from a jockey or a trainner, some quality inside information.
No your all right it never happens. All horses are sent out to win and run on merrit.
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Owners pay a considerable sum to even get their horse to the racecourse. The chances of having a moderate animal are greater than average. Most owners do not buy a racehorse simply because they love animals, they are hoping for some return on their investment.
Simply put; horses do not run for the benefit of the ordinary punter.
Gambling is merely a financial transaction of opinions. A punter usually has a single opinion, bookmakers have multiple opinions. Some people find it hard to accept that their opinion has been proved wrong.
How right you are. Some losing punters seem to find it impossible to say
"I was wrong"
: thus the interminable angry, whining threads about cheats and rogues (even in high-grade racing) which litter the Forum.
Taking one recent example … a moment’s thought ought to be enough to warn them not to put the house on a promising Sheikh Hamdan 2yo learning his craft under a sympathetic ride – there is no way that the kitchen sink is going to be thrown at such animals to get them first past the post, for the temporary benefit of a few punters and the long term ruination of the horse.
As to owners, there are surely as many reasons for purchasing a horse as there are people; but I would guess that
"status symbol"
and
"corporate advertisement"
come much higher up the pecking order than
"investment with guaranteed return"
. I’d also guess that
"love of horses"
comes way, way down the list!
But the only sensible advice to small, amateur punters has to be this: if you think most of it’s fixed, then find yourself another pastime.
Corporate advertisement and status symbol would be considered a return on their investment, to see horseracing as merely a conduit for making money has been the error of many over the last 200+ years.
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Corporate advertisement and status symbol would be considered a return on their investment, to see horseracing as merely a conduit for making money has been the error of many over the last 200+ years.
All of which is entirely true!!
Plus ça change…
Fitzer1987 Of course the are some elimate of corruption going on in the sport. I remember channel 4 morning line naming a few jockeys who were
allegedly
accused of this. However it was for the right people (either courts or people behind racing) to sort it out, and they had proof. Most punters and some coming on here are venting their anger at a losing bet.
Especially when they don’t give proof of their outburst.Some trainers though run their horses on wrong ground and/or distance for various reasons. They might want to keep it fit for a target or reduce it handicap mark.
The late Ginger McCain for instance ran Amberleigh House in a hurdle race the year he won the Grand National, just so it would be race fit for the national. The are loads more examples in both codes (flat and jumps).
Sometimes they are experinenting with the horse in questions to see if its possible for other targets.
I did think with the betting exchances (BETFAIR and BETDAQ) are the 2 most popular ones that a owner laying a horse would be a problem, after all its far easier to lose a race than to win, but it is closely monitored for that possibilty.
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