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Quote: from Lincoln Duncan on 1:51 pm on Jan. 17, 2007[br]I don’t share your conviction. Even high-class 1m4f horses fail to attract the same interest at stud as their peers at a mile.<br>
What?????
Sadler’s Wells<br>Galileo<br>Montjeu<br> and many more…………
Your comments a laughable IMO. I don’t know any breeders including American breeders thatwouldnt want their mares going to a horse that coyuld win over a mile and a 1mile 6furlongs in the same year.
IF, Teofilo goes for the Triple Crown, and IF he does it then he will be the most popular first season sire in years, that is for sure!
Laughable? Not me – Sadler’s Wells never won over as far as a mile and a half.
You have chosen two high-class 1m4f horses that suit your purposes and presume the argument closed. How many mares have Kris Kin, North Light, Shaamit, Oath been covering?
A US breeder has no use for a horse who wins at 1m6f. He or she might be impressed by its versatility, but his/her mare will have gone 9f tops and he’ll breed her to the same, thanks.
Sadlers wells wasn’t that great a horse though. He’s just provde himself as a sire. Not a good argument LD…
Well, okay but you have done the same with the horses you have included. Kris Kin, Oath and North Light were not great horses. Kris Kin won a weak chester vase gr3 before his fluke derby success and Oath had only won a listed race before the derby success if im not mistaken.
That is the reason they don’t get good mares.
Motivator wasn’t a brilliant horse in my opinion but if it hadn’t been for his shoulder injury he would have been very busy last year and he is fully booked this season apparently.
Many High Chapparel yearlings have gone over to america and he had plenty of stamina, they obvious like his progeny.
You keep going on about these american buyers, but unless you didnt realise, we don’t produce horses just so they will be respected by American breeders. There is enough money in the european market not to care about the american breeders……. cthey can concentrate on the speed horses.
But i promise you, if Teofilo does do the triple crown he as a first season sire will be wanted from all areas of the globe, including america……. there is no argument about that whatsoever.
I tell ya what, when i go out there next month and go to the farms and speak to breeders i will ask them, okay?
Fair play, Stormont! And when he wins the Triple Crown I’ll write him up like the champion he would be.
a few whispers i have heard HRE has done well over the winter he hasnt grown much but has filled out and strengthen out in all the right places, a lot as been wrote about HRE looking like a proper 2yr and not likely to train on, but he is typical of 95% of danehills progeny who are not overly big and are built like sprinters, i remember folks saying the same about the rock and we all know what he achieve at 3
I’d be looking to oppose Teofilo especially over a mile.
He was a big two year old who people presume will fill into his frame as he gets older and I dare say there’ s a degree of truth in that but I think there’s a possibility that he may have had a mature edge on most two year olds last season.
Teofilo is a gallopper I can see him getting done for a turn of foot in the guineas, the softer the ground the bigger his chance for me.
The Derby? Teofilo is by Galileo out of a Danehill mare his full brother was a ten furlong winner at three. There’s a fair chance that Teofilo will get a mile and a half but he may prove best at ten furlongs especially taking into account the speed he showed as a two year old. Also his size would be a slight worry at Epsom I wouldn’t be certain of him handling the track that well.
I wouldn’t want to back him for either the Guineas or the Derby.
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