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I wouldn’t bring 3 year old form into a new career because trainers have plans and routes for a three year old career planned out since a horse comes in at two provide they show any ability which at Aidan’s that’s pretty much garanteed with every horse that comes in, he’ll make sure they peak at 3 and show their best ability in the biggest and most memorable classics around.
To ask Rip Van Winkle to reproduce his Eclipse form is asking a lot imo, admittedly he needed that run last time out but to ask him to show his three year old running today giving 8lbs to a horses who in the top of his form is a tough ask and for me The Queen Elizabeth would be a more realistic target.
Rip Van Winkle has been a problematic horse with Aidan normally bringing older horses along really early in the season to try and get the momentum building for races later on and I just can’t see the same horse turning up today.
Good luck if you’re backing him, he’s certianly the class horse in the race with the young pretender ready to knock his reputation for six..
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Sensational bit of in running action there with RVW heavily traded at 1.12 and CC going 8. I reckon the floodgates opened at about the furlong pole where CC looked beaten until he changed legs and jogged on by.
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Cantered over a 129 rated horse, simply amazing.
one thing to take in mind is that richard hughes has barely had to use the whip on the horse yet. just a couple of little taps.
i put a bet on for a tri-cast, CC, RVW and Prem Loco.
Does anyone know what this pays/payed, as i cannot find it. or if even i am allowed this bet, and that the girl behind the counter didnt realise??
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How many lengths did he have to make up with 2f to go on Rip Van Winkle, 7-8?
He had to use the whip imo.
Nerves of steel, don’t think many jockeys could of left it that long watching a 129 rated horse go for home with a 4-5 length lead.
I’m going from memory here so forgive me if them estimates are a little out.
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Delboy if that wasn’t a tricast race there’s a good chance they’ll pay you out as a forecast or single. I seem to recall that happening to me in the past.
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That was very impressive from Canford Cliffs, strolling past a proven Group One performer with the minimum of fuss. He has to take on the mighty Goldikova now, to establish who the real champion miler is this season.
Delboy, most bookies will pay you the straight forecast if you wrote them in the right order. Tricast races are generally handicaps of eight or more declared runners, although some bookies add certain big races like the Classics, for example.
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ficticous book
After comments like that Fist, do you really think I am going to bother to explain?
If you’d come to Goodwood I could show you my "ficticous book".
Don’t worry about it Fist, you would not recognise value if it…..
Explain what? how to lose your balls in one easy lesson.
Stop posting those stupid books Ginge they are pointless and about as interesting as watching paint dry/does my fookin nut in:P
yeh i got payed the forecast. i think that this race was one of the most certain forecasts ive had in a while.
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That aside………..what a performance by Canford Cliffs..now can someone please tell me is he or is he not one very special horse?
as good as Sea the Stars or better?
Who knows ????????
Certainly wouldn’t match Sea The Stars you crazy crazy man.
AGREED
No Horse ever will
Now YOU are getting carried away Wallace
Great performance, I though I had the money in the bag with RVW all the way bar at the line, but Goldikova casts a MASSIVE shadow and I shouldn’t even bother mentioning the real Queen Of The Mile t(+) Zenyatta
Aidan O’Brien did say on Channnel4 that Rip Van Winkle wasn’t at his ideal race weight yet and was going to improve. having said that, Canford Cliffs was mighty impressive and towards the end of the race there was something of Sea the Stars about him
. Sea the Stars was very special in my eyes, and there’s an emptiness about this season now he’s gone. There was a mention for Richard Hannon’s travelling head lass today. I’ve been watching her this year, with the Hannon horses doing so well, and I’ve been very impressed with her. I saw her whistling to one of the horses before/after one race. The sort of staff member that makes a successful stable.
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Mark’s books aren’t pointless, Fist. Far from it. They provide an insight in to the way he thinks and create a foundation on which to build a betting strategy. You mustn’t confuse ‘pointless’ with ‘I don’t want to read that’ and you mustn’t confuse ‘I don’t want to read that’ with ‘nobody wants to read that’.
As far as Canford Cliffs goes, that was remarkably easy. I remain sceptical about just how short of peak fitness Rip Van Winkle actually is – he seemed alert during the race, if a touch keen and certainly wasn’t stopping in the closing stages – but whatever his condition he’d have struggled to win today.
A meeting with Goldikova would certainly be something to savour, though given how well Canford Cliffs has progressed physically I think he’d probably beat her.
He’s still not in the same league as Sea The Stars though.
moehat….I think it must be a very happy yard, there’s obviously a great rapour between son -in-law and father-in-law and that will rub off through everything. As someone who has enployed up to sixty staff at one time I know just how important this is to a sucessful operation, that and good wages, if one has that everything else ha a way of sorting itself out.
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