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February 5, 2012 at 05:24 #389902
Captain Conan having come on a ton now looks likely to run here and Simonsig will go for the Neptune
February 5, 2012 at 11:11 #389921I also looked at Galileo’s Choice and Simonsig. While I’m very loathe to dismiss Simonsig fot his chosen race, everything about his racing screams stayer to me, after all he stayed the 3 miles well in his points
So did Al Ferof, and i fancy Simonsig has a quicker turn of foot.
I’ve watched his Ascot and Sandown races several times and i think as the pace quickens in the Supreme, he’ll go with them easily.
I’m hoping Sous Les Cieux head for the Neptune.
February 5, 2012 at 11:31 #389922Am i the oly one who is doubting this Simonsig hype. I have watched the replay against Fingal and he travels like he is going to go right by him. Then the stayer potential of fingal who seems to slowing pulls away again. Simonsig never went past and i would have expected him too the way he was travelling. forget the ground nonsense, he was still powering all the way in that ground but the charge emptied out to nothing. I just couldnt trust that.
February 5, 2012 at 11:54 #389925Am i the oly one who is doubting this Simonsig hype. I have watched the replay against Fingal and he travels like he is going to go right by him. Then the stayer potential of fingal who seems to slowing pulls away again. Simonsig never went past and i would have expected him too the way he was travelling. forget the ground nonsense, he was still powering all the way in that ground but the charge emptied out to nothing. I just couldnt trust that.
I think many would have said the same about Menorah after being beaten by Lush Life at Kempton
If you’re judging a horse on one run after so few runs then i think you’re making a mistake. People see different things and you and i obviously disagree at this moment in time, but that moment is still very early in a horses career.
The Sandown form is strong and i like how the horse travels and quickens.
Also, i don’t think there is hype involved as if so, he’d be single figure price.
February 5, 2012 at 12:15 #389930…snip… Simonsig will go for the Neptune
Hurdygurdyyman.
Is this based on info/fact or opinion?I ask because he’s horse I really rate but I’ve always thought Neptune or Albert Bartlett, not Supreme.
After watching reruns of my other two fancies for the opener, Galileo’s Choice and Cash And Go, I’m leaning towards the former for The Supreme and towards the later for The Punchestown Festival, the O’Grady horse though probably the better of the two, will clearly be much better suited to going right handed
February 5, 2012 at 13:02 #389941I feel that Steps to Freedom is being underestimated, because he
only just
beat Prospect Wells.
The positives for the horse are clear to see; he can win around Cheltenham and stays well up the hill, has a good turn of foot, can travel strongly off a strong pace and then finds that bit extra when needed. He will, no doubt in my mind, show how good he is in the Supreme, coming off a strong-gallop that is a given with the race. What he did in his last race (Cheltenham in November) was show me that he was willing to battle when necessary.
I understand looking for value, having backed Al Ferof last year at 16’s, but with no one horse being punted off the boards (as was the case with Cue Card, Dunguib the last 2 years), I see a lot of value with the 10/1 that remains open on Steps to Freedom. He has the most up-side of any horse that has been given an entry and has been confirmed to run (barring injuries etc). The only other horse that would interest me would be Galileo’s Choice who simply got out-stayed by Sous Les Cieux on heavy ground last time out.
February 5, 2012 at 13:04 #389942Dont get me wrong i rate simonsig and second to fingal is great form. Just seems to be an awful lot of people fancying him for the festival on that SECOND place whereby he looked like he would go past but never did.
I am not in the league of writing horses off after one race trust me. I am however trying to get an angle on the novices where evidence is thin. The way i interpret Simonsig is he has a decent engine, what doesnt in the supreme line up though. He has done nothing over 2m. His stamina could stand him in good stead. He had the chance to go by fingal then was outclassed IMO and that was it. What if that means his final burst was not able sustain for long or what happens if he has no heart for a battle, they are questions that for me üpoint negatively against him on early evidence, wouldnt lay him but wouldnt bet either. he may not be single figured price but nothing is and he is one of the lower prices.
Long and short is they know they cant beat fingal which means dropping down in distance.
February 5, 2012 at 14:43 #389955I’ve not yet seen the replay of Trifolium’s victory, but his French blood, in addition to the fact that the highest rated horse he’s beaten is rated 135 (in 3rd), I’d say he’s not had to run much better than his previous best of 142.
February 5, 2012 at 14:50 #389956r.e Hurdy’s post about Simonsig – Surely the intention is to go for the Supreme ?
I guess much will depend on what their intentions are with the Captain – personally i’d wait.
Although i think Oscar Nominee is moving quickly up the pecking order. Was a good run last time on ground that did not suitAs for Midnight Game – i think it starts off at 8-1. I’m convinced Ruby will ride. Can’t see anything Nicholls has that he’d prefer
February 5, 2012 at 14:54 #389957Midnight Game is Davy Russell’s ride, only reason Ruby would ride is if Davy is injured or rides Trifolium.
February 5, 2012 at 15:00 #389961I’ve not yet seen the replay of Trifolium’s victory, but his French blood, in addition to the fact that the highest rated horse he’s beaten is rated 135 (in 3rd), I’d say he’s not had to run much better than his previous best of 142.
It appeared a first glance as if he was very comfortable, but he had first run and Ruby was covered up before that tight bend.
I think he’s run not much better than his previous two runs and wonder how much improvement is left ?
I think he’d come up short at Cheltenham
February 5, 2012 at 15:08 #389965Midnight Game is Davy Russell’s ride, only reason Ruby would ride is if Davy is injured or rides Trifolium.
I was thinking Davy would ride Trifolium
February 5, 2012 at 18:19 #389981Dont get me wrong i rate simonsig and second to fingal is great form. Just seems to be an awful lot of people fancying him for the festival on that SECOND place whereby he looked like he would go past but never did.
I am not in the league of writing horses off after one race trust me. I am however trying to get an angle on the novices where evidence is thin. The way i interpret Simonsig is he has a decent engine, what doesnt in the supreme line up though. He has done nothing over 2m. His stamina could stand him in good stead. He had the chance to go by fingal then was outclassed IMO and that was it. What if that means his final burst was not able sustain for long or what happens if he has no heart for a battle, they are questions that for me üpoint negatively against him on early evidence, wouldnt lay him but wouldnt bet either. he may not be single figured price but nothing is and he is one of the lower prices.
Long and short is they know they cant beat fingal which means dropping down in distance.
Well you better call NH and tell him. I can tell you without fear of contradiction that when Nicky was asked face to face about Simonsig he said he will beat Fingal Bay at Cheltenham and it’s not the first time he’s said it.
At the end of the day the owner will decide but NH’s has given every indication his preference is the Neptune.
February 5, 2012 at 18:33 #389982From a purely personal point of view they must be thinking at Seven Barrows that Cinders and Ashes could be very hard to beat and that there may well be even better than him to worry about.
Anyone who reads BG column knows how much he fancied Keys when C and A totally blew him away and they Ile De Re who looks areal good prospect miles behind in 3rd.
Waste of time running him in the Supreme he’s got no chance IMO and if he does you can bet the owner made the decision and not NH.
This horse is no Spirit Son or Binocular and they couldn’t win a Supreme how daft do you think NH is? Maybe best no one answers that his lawyer might be looking in
February 5, 2012 at 20:36 #389994From a purely personal point of view they must be thinking at Seven Barrows that Cinders and Ashes could be very hard to beat and that there may well be even better than him to worry about.
Anyone who reads BG column knows how much he fancied Keys when C and A totally blew him away and they Ile De Re who looks areal good prospect miles behind in 3rd.
Waste of time running him in the Supreme he’s got no chance IMO and if he does you can bet the owner made the decision and not NH.
This horse is no Spirit Son or Binocular and they couldn’t win a Supreme how daft do you think NH is? Maybe best no one answers that his lawyer might be looking in
The post of a mad man.
They have plenty of lines of form with Cinders, a horse who appears to prefer soft going. Broadbackbob has beaten him, Keys has beaten him in a bumper – i very much doubt they are running scared.
Ludicrous.
February 5, 2012 at 20:48 #389998I read his 2 posts and immediately tried blocking him so I can’t see his posts anymore. Unfortunately the feature doesn’t seem to be working and I’ve PM’d Cormack about it. Can’t take anymore of his crap. He reckons Captain Conan’s running in the Supreme ffs. His price on Betfair tells you everything you need to know about that.
February 5, 2012 at 23:07 #390013I read his 2 posts and immediately tried blocking him so I can’t see his posts anymore. Unfortunately the feature doesn’t seem to be working and I’ve PM’d Cormack about it. Can’t take anymore of his crap. He reckons Captain Conan’s running in the Supreme ffs. His price on Betfair tells you everything you need to know about that.
Maybe they’re all running in it and we’re going to see a sort of Spanish Riding School show from AP and Geraghty, leaping from one to the other ?
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