- This topic has 315 replies, 81 voices, and was last updated 14 years, 8 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
Not an impressive win but a win that pleased me by Salden Licht today. Travelled nicely through the race, jumped well and battled hard. Ok he beat nothing but the ground was poor and the race run very slowly. He’ll be much more at home off a fast pace and on good to soft ground. With that in mind he becomes my first ante post punt – a couple of points at 41-1. If he makes the line up he is certain to be less than that.
Not an impressive win but a win that pleased me by Salden Licht today. Travelled nicely through the race, jumped well and battled hard. Ok he beat nothing but the ground was poor and the race run very slowly. He’ll be much more at home off a fast pace and on good to soft ground. With that in mind he becomes my first ante post punt – a couple of points at 41-1. If he makes the line up he is certain to be less than that.
Wasn’t his ground yesterday to be fair, and he should come on alot for that run.
Would be delighted if Dunguib went for the Champion Hurdle to really shake up this market! Salden Licht would be nearer 16-1 if Dunguib went elsewhere!
Was at Plumpton yesterday for Salden Licht’s win – made an easy win look pretty difficult IMO. All the King horses are drifting at the moment so any victory has to be taken as a positive (Prince Buster and the Bumper horse at Huntingdon on Saturday were both well beaten having drifted).
Quel Espirit is the only horse I found that Dunguib has beat that has any good form. Sweeps Hill and Some Present have turned out to be not really anything as once thought. Been quite remarkable how many horses Dunguib has beaten and started favourite to be totally stuffed.
If Menorah won the Totesport Trophy I’d be disappointed if Dunguib would stay so short.
Quel Espirit is the only horse I found that Dunguib has beat that has any good form. Sweeps Hill and Some Present have turned out to be not really anything as once thought. Been quite remarkable how many horses Dunguib has beaten and started favourite to be totally stuffed.
Rite Of Passage, Roberto Goldback, Pepe Simo, Shinrock Paddy, Fosters Cross, Candy Creek, Meath All-Star, Henry King, The Biscuit Club, Luska Lad (would have surely won yesterday had he stood up)?
Dunguib has stuffed them all and they’ve all shown decent form subsequently.
I think it was an above average year for bumper horses. Compare it to ’08 – Cousin Vinny, Corskeagh Royale, Zaarito & Shoreacres. That form never worked out at all.
Rite of Passage is a better horse now than he was last spring. He won the November Handicap easily off top weight which in my book makes him Listed class at least on the level. If he can jump a flight better than Dunguib (and lets face it Dunguib hasn’t looked like the best jumper) then he can get closer than in last years bumper. Only worry with Rite of Passage is that he may go for the Neptune Investment hurdle rather than the Supreme. Thats more of a worry to me ante post than the fact he hasn’t seen a flight in public.
I’ve a feeling that even if Dunguib won The Supreme and came out a couple of hours later and won The Champion Hurdle too he’d still have some doubters :>)
Before the youngstyers start laughing remember that Flyingbolt almost did something very similar "back in the day"
Oh, you are showing your age CS! Who’s the horse in the picture, by the way? Can’t make it out even with a magnifying glass.
Moehat
The piture is from a late Victorian era Racing Illustrated, I forget the horses name, not a famous horse I just like the composition of the photo, when I’ve got a minute I search through my vault to see if I can find it but there’s so many issues to go through it might take a while !
Pleasing Debut by Rite Of Passage. Not an ante post option but could shake up Dunguib. Will wait to see where he goes.
I love those old ‘formal’ photos. Do they still do them these days? Bit like school photos, aren’t they. I love the ones in my 100 Greatest Racehorses book of Easter Hero [know so little about this horse and he is rarely mentioned these days] and Prince Regent.
Quel Espirit is the only horse I found that Dunguib has beat that has any good form. Sweeps Hill and Some Present have turned out to be not really anything as once thought. Been quite remarkable how many horses Dunguib has beaten and started favourite to be totally stuffed.
Rite Of Passage, Roberto Goldback, Pepe Simo, Shinrock Paddy, Fosters Cross, Candy Creek, Meath All-Star, Henry King, The Biscuit Club, Luska Lad (would have surely won yesterday had he stood up)?
Dunguib has stuffed them all and they’ve all shown decent form subsequently.
I don’t think any of those horses with the possible exception of Pepe Simo (a much more straightforward conveyance this season) has done anything to warrant a single figure quote for Cheltenham. If you are saying don’t oppose Dunguib with horses he has already beaten in bumpers then I would probably agree. There are other formlines over here which because none of our trainers decided to take him on will remain a relative mystery right up the day of the race.
- Total Posts 17716
He’ll hack up in two more uncompetitive, soft-ground novice events before proving to be another waste of £300,000.
He was impressive on Sunday it must be said, but the race was an incredibly poor one and he’d have been by far the best suited by conditions. I followed Red Moloney off a cliff last season after effortless victories at Musselburgh, but won’t be making the same mistake with this chap.
Washington Irving was duly beaten at odds-on at Newcastle this afternoon.
How many more times has Howard Johnson got to throw hundreds of thousands of pounds – this chap cost a cool 300,000gns I believe – down the drain before the Wylie’s stop signing blank cheques?
Washington Irving was duly beaten at odds-on at Newcastle this afternoon.
How many more times has Howard Johnson got to throw hundreds of thousands of pounds – this chap cost a cool 300,000gns I believe – down the drain before the Wylie’s stop signing blank cheques?
I was just thinking the same thing a few minutes ago, where is it going wrong????
even On Raglan Road, the only horse to have beaten Dunguib can’t win anything worthwhile for him.
I loved Inglis Drever, Tidal Bay did me a big favour winning The Arkle but I’ve stood for some of the others and failed to understand why they constantly underperform, remember Ruby Walsh getting done on Tiday Bay at 1-4… that was underpreforming taken to the highest degreeWashington Irving jumped poorly and can be dismissed for the festival. Not sure that its fair to bash team Wylie/Johnson over there buying process though. They have bought some duds (for over inflated money) but then isn’t that how the Nicholls barn has so many top horses…he has owners willing to splash out top drawer. Buy A P O Brien cast offs is where it goes wrong though.
Buying ex flat horses for the national hunt game is extreamly risky business.At the end of the day,jumping is the name of the game. No matter how well they can gallop, if they dont enjoy what their doing your wasting your time with them.I know there is sum sucess stories but in general,the majority dislike the game.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.