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Let’s say the race you have placed an ante-post bet on doesn’t take place.
Will the bookmakers refund all bets? Even the ones involving horses that have been scratched from the race prior to the announcement of its cancellation.
It wouldn’t be easy to understand that bets can be lost on an event that doesn’t take place.
Does anyone have a reliable source/rulebook about this matter?THX
If the race meeting has been abandoned or cancelled for whatever reason youll be refunded,
If after the first stage of decs your horse is not declared, then the meeting is abandonded, you wont be refunded
Only happened a couple of times in the past for me which i can remember. First one was Welsh National when it got swapped to Newbury when Master Oats won.That was void as was the Ayr Gold Cup a couple of years ago when that was swapped to Haydock.
Pretty sure that if it is run at the same course all bets stand if run at the same course. If at another course all bets are void. ( i think )
Thanks for your replies. My problem are a few ante-post bets on Bedrock at 66/1 and 50/1 for the CH.
I’d tend to say the bets are lost, because he was already taken out at some early stage. But wouldn’t it be paradox to lose a bet on a non-existing event?Yeah as bedrock was scratched after inital decs you wont be refunded regardless, big players like PP might justice refund that, but the likes of betfair ex you wouldnt
Glad I found this.
What about if I put a bet on Myretown for the warwick class this Saturday and it gets called off for frost?
If the race doesn’t take place then there is no winner so you’d hope for a refund regardless if the horse was scratched or not imo
If the race gets moved, you could argue that you didn’t bet for a different date/course/potential going etc
If the going changed on a morning of a race and a horse got pulled because of that you would lose you dosh Ante Post so I don’t see why you shouldn’t get it back off a postponement or at least put up a case
There will be rules put in place something like if the race takes place within 7 days or so bets will standGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
The below is off PP other bookies may vary
Abandonments/postponements/re-run races
If a race programme is abandoned or postponed bets will be void.
However, on occasions when a major race is postponed we reserve the right to advertise and apply the following: Bets accepted after 10am on the day the final declarations are made will stand until that race is run, so long as the overnight declarations and race venue remain unchanged.
If races are set back in time on a day because of the weather, settlement of all bets will be ruled by the original advertised times.
If a race is re-run, betting in the first race will rule settlement.
In the event of a race being abandoned after the off, all bets placed after the final declarations had been published will be deemed void and stakes will be refunded.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
pp again about “future” AP bets
In line with principals laid down by Tattersalls Rules of Racing, Future Racing bets will be void under the following circumstances, otherwise bets stand:
a. If the race is abandoned or declared void.
b. If the venue of the race is altered or postponed to a later date at a different track.
c. If the race is postponed to a later date at the same track with entries totally reopened bets placed after the initial entries are void, but bets placed prior to the initial entry stage will stand. All bets will stand if a race is postponed to later date at the same track with the same entries, whether the bet was placed before or after the initial entries stage.
d. If the horse is balloted out or eliminated under Jockey Club rules single bets will be void. In any such cases, accumulative Future Racing bets will stand on the remaining legs, at the prices laid on the selections in those races, with a double becoming a single, a treble becoming a double, etc.
e. In the event of horses being withdrawn under Jockey Club/Turf Club rules, to limit the number of entries taken part, these horses shall be void. The liability of a layer against horses remaining will be reduced on both win and place parts of such bets, in accordance with the rate to be announced before the race by Tattersalls Committee, dependant on the odds currently available against the withdrawn horses at the time of withdrawal. All bets are executed at the price ruling at the time of handing in of the bet. We reserve the right to correct any palpable error. Win doubles, trebles, etc are calculated at full accumulative odds. Each-way doubles and trebles etc. are settled win-to-win, place-to-place, and for the place part of such bets, the fractional odds pertaining at the time of acceptance. Place only bets, conditional bets and forecast bets are not accepted Future Racing. When the same selection is backed to win two or more races/events in Future Racing bets, special odds are applicable. These special odds will supersede the accumulative odds calculated from the individual event prices irrespective of the fact that the individual event prices may be endorsed on the slip. If special odds were not available, the stake will be divided equally as singles at the prices available at the time the bet was placed.
f. Any horse that does not qualify for, or is expunged from a race will be settled as a loser. Bets taken on a horse after they have not qualified by the applicable qualifying date will be voided.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
I do NOT agree with ‘hams’ interpretation because there is one basic rule in betting which is: If you could never have won, you cannot lose.
So imagine betting early ante-post in the Derby. Your horse has been entered in the Derby but does not appear in the first declaration stage. AT THE TIME you placed your bet it could have won, so your ante-post bet loses. Howver, if a particular horse was NEVER entered in the Derby then you could never have won and therefore the bet is void and you will be refunded.
If a particular race is delayed and/or run at a different track, then the bet stands. Some bookmakers’ rules will void bets in these circumstances, but the punter will have his stake refunded in such circumstances.
Now, if a race is abandonded and never run again, then there CANNOT be a winner. If its not possible to have a winner, you cannot have losers. Under such circumstances then all bets have to be refunded.
No we are not. Several years ago I worked in a betting shop. I had to learn the rules of betting. As stated, a rule relative to all betting is: If at the time a bet is struck is is impossible to win, then it must be void. This isn’t philosophy, it is basic conmon sense. You will find it difficult to find a licenced bookmaker who will not refund on bets on a abandoned races.
@value31 you are correct.
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysWhen I was young and impecunious student I had an antepost 2 singles and double on Monksfield (14-1) Champion Hurdle, and Bective Road (33-1) Triumph hurdle. That must have been the year the final day was postponed; I’d given up on Bective road, but as the meeting was postponed the bective Road bet was void and the double became another single on Monksfield. So long ago, I may have the sequence wrong, but i clealry remember the pay-out!
You’re only get money back on an Ante Post bet if you’re selection is scratched. To be scratched it must remain as a runner until the final declaration.
The only exception to my knowledge was the 1993 Grand National, where every bet was refunded regardless of when stroke, but I think it was a PR stunt.
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