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I couldn’t possibly reveal any names of horses in this year’s publication as I don’t want to be responsible for a loss of earnings, but it’s very interesting reading over the 2009 and 2010 Fifty to Follow. Just going through them, noting which horses their trainers thought were their best, it’s very revealing to see which trainers know who their best horses are.
Richard Hannon is without doubt #1. In 2009 he put up Canford Cliffs and a horse who hasn’t raced yet. Last year he put up Strong Suit and a horse who’s 0 from 5. A horse he put up this year finished placed in the same maiden those 2 won.
Henry Candy’s another great one. Flambeau in 2009 and Codemaster last year. Barry Hills another good one, as was Michael Jarvis. John Gosden’s a good one and Tom Dascombe knows about which of his 2yos are most forward. Of the 4 horses he’s put up, 3 won on their debut or 2nd outings. Ed McMahon put up just 1 horse last year and I think most of you can work out who it was.
Jeremy Noseda’s a very disappointing judge. I love him as a trainer but of the 3 horses he’s put up, 1’s unraced, and the other 2 have won 1 from 9 between them, at 4/5.
Brian Meehan’s another disappointing one, although the 2 horses he put up last year haven’t really had a proper go at racing yet.
Mick Channon knows a winner when he sees one but not a good horse.
Does anybody else know of any good or bad judges?
Richard Hannon is without #1; a horse that is yet to run, a horse that is 0 from 5, and a horse that only placed in a maiden
Are you winding us up
Canford Cliffs apart, I hardly think that makes him number one. What has Strong Suit done since his some will say ‘fortunate’ Coventry win?
He’s put up 2 Coventry winners (Fortunate? What was fortunate about it? Would’ve been very unfortunate had he not got up, had a nightmare ride) which is a damn sight better than any others have done.
Fair enough, but I was talking more about the horse that is yet to run, the horse that was placed in a maiden, and the horse that is 0 from 5. I’m just not sure how a trainer with these three horses as part of his last five named (I’m just guessing it’s his last five) can be classed as ‘without doubt the number 1’.
Regarding Strong Suit; yes he got a troubled run but that is part and parcel of a six furlong race with 20 odd runners. What isn’t part and parcel is the runaway leader’s jockey looking up at the big screen in the last furlong and thinking that he has got the race won, only then to be caught on the line.
In comparison to what the other trainers highlighted, yes, he is without doubt number 1 because only 3 other trainers put up a Pattern horse over 2 years. Barry Hills highlighted 1 from 5, Michael Jarvis highlighted 1 from 3 and Henry Candy highlighted 2 from 2.
Why are you holding the horse who hasn’t run against him?
Because you said he put it up in 2009, and it’s now the middle of 2011
If a trainer told me two years ago, "Here, put this one in your notebook", and the horse then wasn’t seen on a course for two years, then that last thing I’d be saying is that trainer is without doubt number one when it comes to giving folk horses to follow.
However, when you mention what the other trainers have achieved with their horses to follow then yes, he is right up there.
Moral of the story – for me anyway – is not to take much notice when trainers discuss horses to follow. It can generally be gleaned from initial runs and race entries how good a horse is. That’s how I feel anyway.
Was the one that got beat in a maiden Glee – winner of the first race at Goodwood today?
Glee is not in the 50.
Strong Suit was a very good 2yo which won me plenty in its maiden and the Coventry, that’s good enough for me.
The book also offered a good clue to David Elsworth’s winner today. You have to read between the lines as with most stable tours but it is a good book, I look forward to it every year.
No connection by the wayBecause you said he put it up in 2009, and it’s now the middle of 2011
And if the horse got injured?
Was the one that got beat in a maiden Glee – winner of the first race at Goodwood today?
No, he was placed in the 1st race on Friday 13th May in the opening race at Newbury.
Fantastic book compiled by Steve Taplin, just got my 2011 copy.
I think you’ve mentioned most of the good trainers such as Hannon, Gosden, Candy etc., and another whose judgement I do trust is Roger Charlton who I will forgive for getting it totally wrong when Genki dotted up at Newmarket time before last (said he would improve for the run…ouch
)The very worst and I don’t know why he even includes him in the book Mark Johnston, he never gives any trainer comments, IMO he doesn’t allow his best horses to be entered in the book and he along with a few other top trainers have no star ratings for their horses which means that Steve Taplin does not have enough information about the 2yo’s to appraise them.
A case of keeping their cards close to their chests I think.But out of them all I have to say that Henry Cecil is the most honest and frank about his horses chances and he has one or two nice 2yo’s biding their time at Warren Place at the moment..Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...another whose judgement I do trust is Roger Charlton who I will forgive for getting it totally wrong when Genki dotted up at Newmarket time before last (said he would improve for the run…ouch
)The race was so bad in hindsight that he probably ran about 10lbs below form. Just happened that was better than anybody else. Shocking race.
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