- This topic has 224 replies, 60 voices, and was last updated 11 years, 1 month ago by
.
-
Posts
-
Bold statement I know but I think this horse is going to be very good, beat Peddlers Cross like he wasn’t there. How he wasn’t favourite I don’t know lol
Jumps like something else <!– s:) –>
<!– s:) –>He will win the Arkle chase with ease, one of the best horses in training atm.
What u rekon?
DEEMAN
I grant you he was impressive, however bear in mind that Peddlers hit the first hard and never appeared to be travelling that well after and also dod not appear to enjoy going right handed.
I think back at Cheltenham it will be a different story.He’s a really gorgeous horse and his jumping is just breathtaking, so I hope he will take high rank.
A question mark over him is can he handle Cheltenham? Last year he was travelling like the winner in the Supreme and then wilted faced with the hill – he did hit the last but that was because he was already feeling the pressure. Granted, he’s a year older and he certainly looks much stronger than when I saw him last year, but unlike Al Ferof (and Peddlers) he’s got to prove he can get home up the hill. I also wonder what will happen if something gets him off the bridle.
He certainly covers the ground and makes it at a fence, his Donny time was quick considering he was doing his own thing up front and he was 8s quicker than Finian’s Rainbow here, again pretty much running on his own. What do people think to the times today?
Rolling his eyes, Henderson’s tight-lipped expression, when he was asked in a video about Sprinter Sacre, was hilarious. His silence could not have been more eloquent, and of course he’s had a few fair horses in his time.
Fabulous impressive looking horse and some spectacular jumping today – something to look forward to. Hope he does become a GREAT!
Fabulous impressive looking horse and some spectacular jumping today – something to look forward to. Hope he does become a GREAT!
He rather majestically fiddled at least one fence he didn’t take on a good stride, I believe – which was remarked on by a commentator at the time. I only saw part of the SL video replay.
- Total Posts 17716
Sprinter Sacre was done for speed in the Supreme, not stamina.The horse is bred to stay more than 2m, and it’s unlikely we’ve seen anything like the best of him so far.
I’ve little doubt, ridden positively as he was today, they won’t be catching him up the Cheltenham hill this season.
His was the best time of the day, by some margin, though times overall weren’t as quick as yesterday, probably because none today were run at their optimum.Should anything come to light as to why
Peddlers Cross
ran what i would describe as flat then the hyperbole about
Sprinter Sacre
could well be premature.What interests me is Barry rode this inexperienced horse at a fairly good clip around Kemptons 2 miles today and yet within the hour rides last years Arkle runner-up at a crawl over the same course and distance had the pair met today then the young pretender would have beaten his stable mate by 20 lengths!
Finians Rainbow
was receiving all the same plaudits last year at this time so i will reserve judgement for now but it has to be said again he was mighty impressive today,personally though if i could get 12/1 about
Sprinter Sacre
winning next years Ryanair i’d take it as he really does look like a horse on a rapidly rising curve but he’ll only be 6yo come March whereas Finians Rainbow was an 8yo and Nickys 2 Arkle winners that remind me of this youngster were both 7yo,
Travado
and
Remittance Man
.Dont want to put anyone off like!
He looks a beast, almost in the mould of Denman, and has such a high cruising speed. The way he attacks his fences with such ferocity, seemingly to relish them, is just an amazing sight. I think he will be one of the greats over two miles, I really do. Got on him for the Arkle at 10s back in September, looking tasty!
A question mark over him is can he handle Cheltenham? Last year he was travelling like the winner in the Supreme and then wilted faced with the hill – he did hit the last but that was because he was already feeling the pressure.
He didn’t wilt when faced with the hill. He was a young chaser in the making who came third in a hot Supreme Novice.
Grandouet is one of many horses who’ve run at Cheltenham and appeared beaten by the hill, only to run there as an older, stronger horse and eat it up.In the Arkle, i expect Geraghty to hit the front no as far out as AP did in the Supreme.
Should anything come to light as to why
Peddlers Cross
ran what i would describe as flat then the hyperbole about
Sprinter Sacre
could well be premature.What interests me is Barry rode this inexperienced horse at a fairly good clip around Kemptons 2 miles today and yet within the hour rides last years Arkle runner-up at a crawl over the same course and distance
That was a schooling session on Finians, getting the horse to settle better so he’ll have a chance in the Champion. Brilliant ride by Geraghty after the mistake four out. Gave the horse a chance to recover itself, didn’t panic at the third last, and then after the second last asked Finians to catch the leaders and flew over the final fence.
Sprinter Sacre was done for speed in the Supreme, not stamina.The horse is bred to stay more than 2m, and it’s unlikely we’ve seen anything like the best of him so far.
I’ve little doubt, ridden positively as he was today, they won’t be catching him up the Cheltenham hill this season.
His was the best time of the day, by some margin, though times overall weren’t as quick as yesterday, probably because none today were run at their optimum.You know mate you and I have always agreed on most things but lately you’ve come up with some crackers.
Let me assure you as I have been trying to convince the Peddler’s Cross fan club for the last 2 or 3 weeks he was not beaten for speed or stamina in the Supreme but by immaturity. He wasn’t ready for that type of test or there’s no way Barry would have got off him for Spirit Son.
The rest of your post is fine now get back in your box and don’t come out till I tell you
BTW who’s the after timer who started this thread.
Fist told me after he jumped the 3rd fence at Doncaster this fella is the next Arkle. Clever guy that Fist
Haven’t seen the Kempton performance yet, but the chasing debut at Doncaster was breathtaking enough and this latest effort doesn’t sound like a poor relation – quite the opposite.
For me, however, the 5-2 typically now available about him for the Arkle is frighteningly short for a gelding yet to prove his effectiveness jumping fences uphill and downhill, to say nothing of doing so at speed. His hurdles win at Ascot last February proves too little in that regard, as they went no sort of pace that day yet he was still virtually untroubled from little after halfway.
The "Wayward Lad" is clearly a prize Mr Henderson likes to win, but it may have been more informative to have targeted Sprinter Sacre at the Dipper at Cheltenham on New Year’s Day. Jumping technique around an undulating track would have been better tested, and proving he could stay that race’s 2m5f trip would have rated a useful asset in anticipation of another murderously run Arkle for which stamina beyond 2m trips might well be required.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
I was at Kempton for both days, found my self making some sort of exclamation at every jump, he is SO good.
He is one of the best jumpers i’ve ever seen, so quick over a fence and away from them. He got in VERY close to a few at Kempton, but you woudn’t know from the way he landed.
One to get very, very excited about indeed.
Haven’t seen the Kempton performance yet, but the chasing debut at Doncaster was breathtaking enough and this latest effort doesn’t sound like a poor relation – quite the opposite.
For me, however, the 5-2 typically now available about him for the Arkle is frighteningly short for a gelding yet to prove his effectiveness jumping fences uphill and downhill, to say nothing of doing so at speed. His hurdles win at Ascot last February proves too little in that regard, as they went no sort of pace that day yet he was still virtually untroubled from little after halfway.
The "Wayward Lad" is clearly a prize Mr Henderson likes to win, but it may have been more informative to have targeted Sprinter Sacre at the Dipper at Cheltenham on New Year’s Day. Jumping technique around an undulating track would have been better tested, and proving he could stay that race’s 2m5f trip would have rated a useful asset in anticipation of another murderously run Arkle for which stamina beyond 2m trips might well be required.
gc
It’s nothing knew for the big firms to slash prices the minute some horse win a half decent race even although in many cases they are beating horse not yet in top form.
We get false favs by the dozen every year in the build up to Cheltenham especially in novice races. Some never even run in the race but the punters see names like Nichols, Henderson, Mullins etc and assume this must be a superstar.
However Sprinter Sacre does not fall into that category, he has already received the highest praise possible from Mssrs. Geharty and Bass.
Nicky Henderson was lost for words to describe how good he thought he was after Doncaster and Hell!! they are even saying that the ghosts of all those poor soles buried in mass graves round Seven Barrows can be heard whispering Sacre, Sacre at the dead of night.
Taking away the fact that any horse can be injured at any time I think 5/2 is massive for a horse who only needs to turn up and jump a clear round. He looked so relaxed at Donnie and at Kempton he could have gone another circuit so I doubt if getting up the hill will cause him the slightest bit of inconvenience.
He got a bit close to a couple at Kempton but cleverly still managed to get over them without as much as parting the birch and his jumping can only get better as he’d had only to runs.
For a big horse he is exceptionally agile (Barry’words not mines) so I doubt if a few undulations will bother him at all. Nicky has a replica of a Cheltenham fence built at the bottom of his gallops and he’ll have plenty practice before heading off from the Arkle.
I don’t know what the plan is now but if he runs again and wins without incident you’ll be lucky to get evens on the day. If one of his main challengers run a non inspiring race pre Cheltenham again the will again cut him to the bone.
I do agree with what you are saying Jeremy if applied to most other horses but not to this fellow, who is something really special.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.