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There has been an utterly childish debate in various places online about this, which generally accuses the sublimely skilled pair of McIlroy and Hamilton as "just hitting a little ball with sticks" or "just driving around in a car".
It begs the question why these sharp-as-a-tack critics don’t just do it better themselves and enjoy the apparently easily achievable benefits of considerable wealth and global fame.
Mike
Completely agree Mike. At least they didn’t pick on trainers though!
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Incredible market too on the machine..Rory trading strongly at 1/3 with Lewis at 4/1 but as the clock ticked so did the money for Hamilton into 11/10.Last time that happened was when Darren Clarke wrapped himself in a tin foil suit and traded at 1/4….He lost too! Where humans are involved there’s always money to be made.
I said to my wife before the show that Lewis would hose up. Firstly his electorate demographic votes and secondly his achievement was much more recent.
Anyway the show is utter self congratulatory PC BBC bollox these days; dreadful. Was miles better when it was a few dozen people in a studio.
Strange how some people think a sportsman should be disqualified for being too rich. Money should not come in to it.
Value Is Everything"just driving around in a car".
With some of the drivers I see on the road I think Hamilton deserves all the praise he gets
Strange how some people think a sportsman should be disqualified for being too rich. Money should not come in to it.
Well it doesn’t make any sense as in 99.9% of cases it is their ability at the sport that has made them rich.
Mike
"just driving around in a car".
With some of the drivers I see on the road I think Hamilton deserves all the praise he gets
Yes, Formula One has always suffered from the problem that everyone can drive, so there’s plenty out there that think it’s basically the same as that night they went 103mph in their Golf on the A40.
Your first 100 attempts to drive an F1 car will result in a stall. Your 101st attempt will result in your death as you will not have the ability to create enough downforce on the car to prevent it from taking off. It would be a lot easier for you to become an F-35 fighter pilot than a competitive F1 driver.
Mike
There has been an utterly childish debate in various places online about this, which generally accuses the sublimely skilled pair of McIlroy and Hamilton as "just hitting a little ball with sticks" or "just driving around in a car".
It begs the question why these sharp-as-a-tack critics don’t just do it better themselves and enjoy the apparently easily achievable benefits of considerable wealth and global fame.
Mike
Completely agree Mike. At least they didn’t pick on trainers though!
Just feed a few nags don’t they…?
Mike
No one should doubt or demean the skill of F1 drivers or professional jockeys, collectively; but wouldn’t it be fair to say that the individuals in those sports who outshine their peers do so because they drive/ride the better or best cars/horses – the tools of their trade are variable in quality and therefore individuals compete against each other on an uneven playing field
An individual becomes the ‘best’ with significant help from his tool
Rory Mcillroy no doubt plays with ‘state of the art’ golf clubs but would in all likelihood be the same force if asked to play with a battered set purchased from the huge selection available at council recycling centres
Likewise tennis rackets, cricket bats, snooker cues, studded boots…these tools of the trade are invariable and individuals compete against each other on a level playing field
An individual becomes the ‘best’ with insignificant help from his tool
The car’s the star
My kingdom for a horseHaven’t watched it for a long time, for the same reason I wouldn’t watch an old man who used to have everything parade the single thing he has left – a timeworn Rolls from the fifties. He parks it in the town centre on one day every year and throws a party, and hopes everyone believes things remain as they always were.
Anyway the show is utter self congratulatory PC BBC bollox these days
Funnily enough the attention given to some of the hitherto barely covered sports is one of the reasons I liked it. Enjoyed the women’s rugby section, Sara Orchard’s commentary and all.
Hard to watch the dressage section without calling this Eddie Izzard skit to mind, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddQs1_HyyAo
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Thanks for that link GC – brilliant! Poor old Kauto Star gets to show off his dressage tonight at Olympia – I bet he wishes he could swap places with Denman and spend his days hunting and team chasing.
Used to be one of my highlights of the year when young. It’s lost almost all the appeal it once had, glitzed up, PC’d out of all recognition.
Yes Cormack the PC brigade have ridden roughshod. Absolutely awful, turgid, programme. What’s with all the bloody music and awards being scattered like confetti to all and sundry? Not even Linekers Chris Rea impression could lighten my mood.
God knows what the current luvvies would make of the likes of Higgins, Bristow and Best.
Higgins and Best lauded now they are dead, they’d be untouchable pariahs these days.
I can’t stand Hamilton. Never met the bloke but he ain’t my cuppa. Think the seed was set in my grey matter when he hung that underling out to dry at Mclaren.
I’d have given it to Mcillroy. Beat off hundreds to win two Majors and a Ryder Cup. Hamilton is clearly supremely talented, but due to the dominance of the Mercedes technology he really only had his team-mate to beat didn’t he?
There was a prog from 1979 about ‘the crafty cockney’ on BBC4 the other night. Haven’t watched it yet but I’m expecting a comforting nostalgic half-hour in the company of bellies, booze and Player’s No.6
By the way what is PC about the word
fu*ck
It was rarely heard on the airwaves in those non-PC days of ’79 but seems
de rigueur
now
It ain’t tough and it ain’t clever: it’s just ugly
Are you sure they weren’t saying
FACK
? A completely different word IMO
Re;- the PC-ness of the awards, has anybody been able to find out what the attendance was for the England v Canada rugger game was? I’ve gone through two pages of google results and I haven’t got a clue. Why wouldn’t the attendance for such a prestigious and relevant event be widely and proudly publicized?
I was amused by the bit where Claire Balding was setting up the sombre and poignant "people who died" bit and the Commonwealth athletes behind her were giving it the "look mum, I’m on TV" business… Probably because it’s the last time any of them will have an audience of more than fifty.
And did anybody else feel their toes curl back towards their heel when Tony McCoy made his cameo? Lineker walked down the stairs towards McCoy talking about his win a few years ago, McCoy comes alive anticipating that the croaky one would at least ask him how he’s doing. Suddenly he realises he’s merely being used as a segue to talk about Rory McIlroy and he just puts on the most ridiculous toothy non-smile and stares into the distance at nothing in particular.
It truly is car-wreck television at its finest.
Drone – I missed that programme I will keep my eye out for it. Am a confirmed Bristow devotee. What was it called please so I can monitor my TV guide.
BH – I must have been on a cig break for McCoys awkward grinning, I did however catch the waving imbeciles during Baldings sombre build up. Highlight of the night!
I would love a certain R. Moore to go through the card at Ascot, or something equally spectacular, which pre-empted his presence on the show. Quite what that well known tolerator (!) of all things bull£&&£ would make of this syrupy nonsense would be very intriguing, and potentially hilarious.
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