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Screw this ‘devil take the hindmost’ philosophy.
Backing horses successfully should be about using skill and judgement, and knowing the result in advance requires neither.
Dress it up how you like, it’s just plain cheating, and with the full knowledge and support of those facilitating it.- Total Posts 17716
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Good post, Robert. Your points on society as a whole are well made,imo. Good article in today’s Herald Tribune, well worth a read when anyone gets a chance.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/opini … ref=global
However I don’t see any moral or other obligation on the racecourses, betting exchange or picture provider, because simply put, in the grand scheme of things, there is nothing they can do. There will
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be someone somewhere with faster pictures.
Even if tomorrow in-running punters were banned from racecourses, and the fast-pic shops had their picture advantage taken away (thus putting them out of business) how do you legislate for punters who want to want to play in running "fairly" from other countries.
I watch UK Racing "live" on The Dubai Racing Channel. The feed comes through Nilesat. Therefore a different satellite, a different delivery system, different signal latency etc.., resulting in a different viewing time for me. Am I not as equal a member of Betfair as any customer they have in the UK? And I know what would happen if I complained, "move to the UK then", would be the cry. Just as "move to the racecourse" is now from the track players. How on earth can you set up every customer of Betfair to view the same pictures at identical times? You cant!
I dont have too much sympathy for the slow pics in-running couch gambler. Prostrate, covered in cornflakes, half asleep, clicking away, playing against blokes who’ve been up early, driven to the racecourse, have done their colours, pace-notes, draw and are motivated enough to pay good money to be at the front of the queue when the shop opens.
You gamble for leisure you pay for your leisure. You gamble more seriously, the information age will provide, delay times included.
Anyway three 1.01’s and a 1.03 all taxied yesterday. Its not all steak in Box 11.
Cav , as always succinct and hard hitting …glad you still have the touch ….even if your brain is frazzled from the heat !!!
However its still cheating , and its definitely symptomatic of the society we live in , he who pays/cheats wins
We no longer operate on the level , we operate on a number of levels
Good news is , it cannot last , liquidity and victims are getting scarcer by the day , this is a scam , and as Joe put it , you would expect more from the courses ….nope …its who cheats wins
I would expect IR betting to be a thing of the past in 5 years time , in fact it will be interesting to see if exchanges as we know them exist 5 years from now !!
cheers
Ricky
Ironically, if a way could be found to level the playing field for all, IR could be a huge market and a real stimulant for pushing racing’s share of the betting spend back up again.
As it is, racecourses’ facilitation of ‘pro punters’ is hastening the end for the IR market on horseracing. A short-term gain for the courses involved will be paid for by everyone in the long term.
Despite persistent cries for unity and leadership, racing’s commercial culture has become ‘every man for himself’.
As for the early bird, far-travelled form students versus the cornflake-bespattered couch punter, I grudge the hard workers nothing. No one can be blamed for profitably shooting fish in a barrel. But the barrel-owners, collectively, would do much better nurturing the fish than selling premium sniper posts.
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