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I guess you’re right about the lorry driving through. a populated area. But, I’d still like to know what horse that was. If the transport took place the very next day after the horse died in its sleep, the name should appear on the HRI’s deceased list.
Maybe someone knows which horse was involved. I’m not suspecting foul play, but shouldn’t the name appear within a week or two after it’s demise?
“ERL, having seen the footage on Twitter/X, it looks like the lorry was driving through a relatively populated area. I suspect the vehicle behind simply spotted the unsavoury sight and someone got their phone out as that is what people do nowadays. I wouldn’t necessarily think Hanlon was being followed deliberately.”
I saw the video with audio, it’s taken by a couple of lads driving through Paulstown laughing like drains at Shark’s lorry towing a trailer with a dead horse on it. Not intentional following – I got the impression it was more “jeez would ye look at that, get the mobile out, we’ll slap it on tiktok”
Paulstown is the next village over from Bagenalstown which is the closest one to Hanlon’s yard. It has a population of 919 according to the last census. I think the knackery was nearby possibly. Very rural and the hunt kennels of the Carlow Farmers, the North Kilkennys and even the Laois hunt wouldn’t be a million miles away, but there was something about the horse’s passport and medications, so perhaps the kennels couldn’t feed it to hounds or maybe were oversupplied that week.
“Why didn’t he just get the horse collected from his yard. ”
Probably either the dead stock lorry was too busy that day, or he was trying to save a few bob if it’s cheaper to dropoff than get a pickup.One of these perhaps. Its Lady Kingston and Whiskey Rose, both registered in the colours of his partner Rachel O’Neill.
“Agree RTB. He has been negligent and caused an embarrassing situation – but there is no suggestion of mistreatment or any kind of integrity issue.
No doubt a few people were outraged by the images on social media but the Irish authorities have made the situation worse by handing out such a disproportionate penalty. It only serves to draw more attention to the situation.”
I agree with this- the Irish Times , RTE, and various UK papers have picked up on it, whereas it might not have been a story if it was just a fine.
I also agree with LD73 that they seem really, really concerned about the optics: if it had been the Jeep rather than the signwritten lorry, it would never have got that far.
Here’s the IHRB press release:
https://ihrb.ie/referrals-appeals/j-j-hanlon-trainer-referral-30-august-2024“The fact that his conduct was not deliberate or intentional did not differentiate it in any meaningful way from the conduct involved in recent comparable cases”
I find this very , very surprising. What recent comparable cases? Gordon Elliott (12mo, 6 suspended) and Rob James (12mo, 8 suspended) deliberately sat on dead horses clowning around for the camera. That, to me, is far, far worse from a dignity and respect point of view than a tarp hastily and poorly secured.
Luke Comer Jr got a year for the rotting horse carcases on his land- he denied being directly involved but nonetheless the horses were deliberately (and illegally) dumped in the forestry.
It does seem that HRI is more concerned about the treatment of dead horses than live ones.
Who is going to control this?
1) Not to knowingly participate in training-related related activities or gallops,
2) Not to issue instructions to any jockey or other trainer as to the training or riding of any horse,
3) Not to enter or attempt to enter any weigh-room, parade ring or any other area of a racecourse restricted to licensees of the IHRB,
4) To give notice of any application to suspend after the expiry of an initial period of four months, to allow the IHRB to consider and respond to the matter prior to an application to suspend being processed by the Committee. It should be noted that the grant of a suspension of licence withdrawal is not automatic, and the grant or the conditions and duration thereof will be determined by reference to the full factual context of the application.
And looking back at Tony Martin being present at Newcastle I have to ask myself if the British Authorities were unaware of the above mentioned rules. I mean the way he walked through the racecourse, the parade ring and so on that day (including him taking part in the trophy presentation) surely raises the question if bans are taken that seriously.
I’m a bit speechless right now:
Ms. Rachel O’Neil owned/had in training 26 of the probably worst horses on the planet with him in training (2023/2024).
This year she is registered (according to the RP site) with 17 horses running under her name.
How can she afford this, if she’s had only one winner in the past two seasons and at which abattoir have most of the horses been transported to?A lot of them are still with the stable now racing for different owners or owners’ groups, but apart from Seasett I don’t think that another one has won a race since.
This surely can’t be right. I mean this is not how proper NH Racing works.
He’s a crook and nothing else……“This year she is registered (according to the RP site) with 17 horses running under her name.
How can she afford this, if she’s had only one winner in the past two seasons”She’s the Shark’s missus! And co trainer, more or less, although her name isn’t on the licence (wouldn’t be surprised if she takes over whilst he serves the ban).
Hewick raced in these colours on his first start for Shark (which he didn’t win), then he sold him to one of his owners so was able to keep the horse in the yard. Willie Mullins trains his wife’s homebreds in pink and green, they try to win a bumper and sell them- this is a budget version.Green, I wasn’t necessarily talking about the number, more about the quality of the horses. If Mrs. Mullins sells her horses to a single owner or a syndicate they surely win races and show a decent strike-rate.
Shark’s missus…. well I don’t know.
Could they not have told him the result of the appeal before he carted all those horses over to Doncaster, presumably incurring quite a bit of expense in transport and animal health cert vet fees?
I saw a clip or two from the auction and I have to say bringing horses over that sell for only 6-8k might not even cover the travelling expenses. It was a quite expensive affair for him and I don’t know who really had a benefit out of this.
His appeal has been partially successful. Providing he abides by the conditions of his suspension, it will in effect only last for 3 months.
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