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- November 25, 2014 at 14:31 #27085
This pretty much sums up the lack of common sense by the "authorities".
Flagman shows the "race stopped" flag in error instead of the black and white checked flag on the first circuit to bypass the fence at the top of the hill.
Even though the jockeys carry on regardless and there is no effect on the race at all, the stewards hold an enquiry and void the race. Where is the logic in that?
If one jockey had pulled up or even lost ground due to momentary confusion I could understand the decision, but this is ridiculous.
Of course, if the fence hadn’t been omitted in the first place…..but that’s another argument.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
November 25, 2014 at 14:47 #496395Mindless bureaucrats are running the show. I’m surprised they didn’t suspend all the jockeys for not pulling up when the void flag was waved.

I feel sorry for the horses slogging out 3m 3f in that ground for nothing.
November 25, 2014 at 15:05 #496398Bookmakers Boylesports, Paddy Power, Coral, Betfred, William Hill and Sky Bet are paying out winning bets for the race and voiding all losing bets
November 25, 2014 at 15:37 #496404and worse the riders couldn’t see the flag anyway because of the low sun!
November 25, 2014 at 15:43 #496405It was noticeable that the flagman was swiftly replaced for the next race.
You have to question what training the Sedgefield fence attendants have received.
Look closely at the 2.50 race – the replacement flagman is nowhere to be seen on the first circuit. He is standing by the fence oblivious to the fact he should be in position waving his flag. On the second circuit he’s where he should be, flag aloft. Surely then, if the 1.20 was void, this race should have been voided as well?
Wrong flag is obviously worse than no flag.
If the original flagman had waved his red and white chequered flag instead, would the race have been void?
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
November 25, 2014 at 16:14 #496410Rules are rules, don’t see how you can implement rules dependent on what may or not happen in a race.
If connections objected against the result because a yellow flag had been raised to indicate a void race how could that objection not be sustained?
That doesn’t hide the fact that it’s an almighty cock up yet again for Jamie Stier and his team, which would have no doubt been swept under the carpet with hardly a mention if the result had stood.
Nothing as yet on the BHA website about the farce but I’ve heard the jockeys could be in for a penalty which would be ridiculous as the flagman had the correct flag up on the next circuit. Why didn’t they stop the race rather than put up a flag to bypass the fence?
Stop press – Jockeys get 10 days
November 25, 2014 at 16:14 #496411All jockeys involved to get 10 day bans too
Although I’m sure there will be an appeal if this is correct.November 25, 2014 at 16:49 #496418Rules are rules, don’t see how you can implement rules dependent on what may or not happen in a race.
If connections objected against the result because a yellow flag had been raised to indicate a void race how could that objection not be sustained?
That doesn’t hide the fact that it’s an almighty cock up yet again for Jamie Stier and his team, which would have no doubt been swept under the carpet with hardly a mention if the result had stood.
Nothing as yet on the BHA website about the farce but I’ve heard the jockeys could be in for a penalty which would be ridiculous as the flagman had the correct flag up on the next circuit. Why didn’t they stop the race rather than put up a flag to bypass the fence?
Stop press – Jockeys get 10 days

Rules are indeed rules, and the rule was that the flag man should raise a chequered flag. He didn’t. How you then pass the blame and the penalty to jockeys is illogical and unjust.
In betting, there is a palpable error rule; there should be one in racing too, or at least a balance of probability factor.
Still relying on flags 17 years after the biggest embarrassment racing has ever suffered, is probably the biggest error here. Hell, a quickly erected row of Tesco windbreaks in front of the fence would have been much more effective than an individual silhouetted against the sun waving a piece of cloth.
November 25, 2014 at 17:48 #496431All jockeys involved to get 10 day bans too
Although I’m sure there will be an appeal if this is correct.I’m not sure how the stewards can justify this
November 25, 2014 at 18:00 #496432I’m not sure how the stewards can justify this
You can bet they were under instruction from above, otherwise they would have surely stopped the race.
November 25, 2014 at 21:17 #496450All jockeys involved to get 10 day bans too
Although I’m sure there will be an appeal if this is correct.I’m not sure how the stewards can justify this
The stewards had no choice. There are some rules where the stewards can apply discretion and some where they cannot. In this case it was the latter. They had to do it.
November 25, 2014 at 21:19 #496452I’m not sure how the stewards can justify this
You can bet they were under instruction from above, otherwise they would have surely stopped the race.
Isn’t that what this is all about ? the flag that was raised was to stop the race (albeit in error) but it was ignored (or they didn’t see it)by the jockeys
November 25, 2014 at 21:54 #496459Isn’t that what this is all about ? the flag that was raised was to stop the race (albeit in error) but it was ignored (or they didn’t see it)by the jockeys
Yes, but next circuit the flagman had a different flag to miss the fence, not stop the race.
Who told him to change his flag and what was the reason to wave it when it was supposedly clear to every Tom, Dick & Harry that the race was void? Shouldn’t he have waved his yellow one again?
November 25, 2014 at 22:08 #496461Isn’t that what this is all about ? the flag that was raised was to stop the race (albeit in error) but it was ignored (or they didn’t see it)by the jockeys
Yes, but next circuit the flagman had a different flag to miss the fence, not stop the race.
Who told him to change his flag and what was the reason to wave it when it was supposedly clear to every Tom, Dick & Harry that the race was void? Shouldn’t he have waved his yellow one again?
That he didn’t wave the same colour flag on the next circuit basically tells you they didn’t have a clue what they were doing and to hand out 10 day bans taking away the jockeys livelihoods for this time is shocking in the circumstances
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