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    Avatar photoCharlesOlney
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    Was Tom Scu trying to get West Approach to finish last? If he wasn’t then I’m mystified as to why he tried to get his mount to jump every fence as slow as the horse possibly could.

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    LostSoldier3
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    Not sure Scudamore could have done much about that – the horse is known to be an awkward sort and he seems to have brought that into his jumping technique too.

    #1327382
    Avatar photoCharlesOlney
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    I didn’t have a bet so by no means am I talking out of my pocket, I was just watching the race waiting for Scu to actually see a stride or push him into one of the fences but he never did.

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    WA showed little confidence at his fences from the start and trying to drive a horse like that into one risks a refusal or a fall.

    WA never looked happy even when not jumping. It could be because he was nervy, wasn’t enjoying the ground or couldn’t get into a rhythm. Wouldn’t be too surprised either if something physical came to light.

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    Maybe it’s in the family. His half-brother isn’t a natural chaser either.

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    ham
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    Hes long been an overated horse since that one ruby masterclass behind ukwimh

    Him and ballyoptic are both overrated, the outcome was not a surprise to me tbh

    Hes just not that good, looks to me a better hurdler than chaser though

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    Hes long been an overated horse since that one ruby masterclass behind ukwimh

    Him and ballyoptic are both overrated, the outcome was not a surprise to me tbh

    Hes just not that good, looks to me a better hurdler than chaser though

    Might not be too far out with that assessment. He’s always promised without looking likely to start winning regularly

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    I am yet to be convinced that 3 miles is the right distance for him. Doesn’t seem to have ever gotten it. That run finishing 3rd to UKWIMH was a strange race and really he was never ridden to try and win, was ridden for a place.

    I would still back him over 2’4/2’5 but never any further.

    That all being said, was never traveling today, may have hated the going

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    Speaking of jockeys …
    I can’t recall Geraghty having such a poor strike rate for a long time and it’s not just the horses. He’s lacking confidence over the obstacles

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    Geraghty’s strike rate from 2008 until 2014 (calendar years) when riding for NJH was 20.47

    Calendar 2015 until now (he took over from AP in summer 2015) SR is 19.56

    His SR so far this season – from August – is 19.39

    Since Oct 1st it’s 20.27

    Since Nov 1st it’s 15.63 . You might be onto something.

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    He has ridden two winners in about twenty five rides. Both favs in small field races.

    #1327708
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    5 from 32 this month (till midnight yesterday). Beaten on 2 odds on shots

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    Was a great fan of Barry, used to be my favourite jockey over fences – even ahead of AP and Ruby. But has had a few falls and injuries of late and seems to me doesn’t have as much confidence/ability in that sphere nowadays. Although imo AP wasn’t as good after taking the JP job either and Ruby isn’t as good as he was. Ruby and Barry are still bloody good compared to most, but personally I’d put Richard Johnson ahead of all of them these days. That said, so many punters back top jockeys just because of who they are, none are better than their following/reputation.

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    I think JP’s own string is weaker than at any other point during the last decade or so. Maybe why he’s invested so much recently in well regarded mares.

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