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This horse is taking me around the bend i cant work him out Is He Good A Fluke Or Improving?
What your thoughts?
I would not give up on Ruler Of The World just yet, nothing gone for him at all on his last couple of races. He does not lack the pace to come back to 10f, overcame a steady pace showing more than enough speed in the Derby. Think he needs a bit underfoot as he will get tomorrow, Derby winner that does not lack pace coming back in trip in what should be a test, not seen best of him yet. Looks overpriced for me at 8/1ish.
Those were my thoughts before the race in Big Race Discussion
That was his best ever performance GA, better than the Derby win! Even at a distance (before today) seemed too short. May improve again at four with give in the ground and (a strongly run) 1m2f/1m4f. I also wonder whether he’s a bit claustrophobic, best racing wide?
Value Is EverythingFelt the mark given after the Derby was much too low. He has shown in France that he can go between horse, and it may have been different today had the draw been better and not had to race as wide as he did. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see him in next year’s Coronation Stakes.
Not enough evidence to have said he was short at 10f, re my comments. Definitely his best performance, but improvement was still likely given not had anything go for him since his win in the derby where was still on the up.
Will be interesting at four, do feel perhaps he won’t want it fast though.
Cracking run today. Makes the Arc run (which looked weird enough to me on the day) seem even stranger.
Doesn’t seem like one to rely on, Ballydoyle’s answer to Refuse to Bend maybe!
Doesn’t seem like one to rely on, Ballydoyle’s answer to Refuse to Bend maybe!
Why? Got a poor trip in both races at Longchamp, no chance once he was shuffled back in the Arc.
Only bomb out was the Irish Derby
Doesn’t seem like one to rely on, Ballydoyle’s answer to Refuse to Bend maybe!
Why? Got a poor trip in both races at Longchamp, no chance once he was shuffled back in the Arc.
Only bomb out was the Irish Derby
I keep hearing this rubbish about a troubled passage in the Arc, it just didn’t happen.
Went from about sharing 6th to almost last on the bend as Treve made a move round the field followed by others that blocked him in and was cut up just after the final 3 marker. Only one behind him after that? Ran on again clear, had no chance final 300-400 given those had gone on ahead of him.
Really, what race were you watching?
He’s just a bit mediocre I’m afraid. Not enough pace to win at 10f or a slowly run 12f.
The form of the Derby was mediocre at best. And I agree with those who say the Arc "hard luck" stories are complete hogwash.
Not excited about his 4yo campaign.
Don’t agree, had every chance and went backwards for reasons unknown.
Ryan Moore is reported to have slipped
He looked well below class today then against those group 1 winners. The Derby was a steady run 12f and he had more than enough pace today to lay up with two very good 10f horses and finish very close…
I couldn’t give too much of a hoot about his 4yo campaign in truth. I analyse and price runners on a race by race basis. He was well over priced today for reasons both of you have rubbished and he proved wrong just a few hours ago? Keep looking through those rose tinted spectacles
I didn’t think that today’s trip on the softer ground would be ideally what Farhh needed but he toughed it out admirably. The big question regarding how well Ruler Of The World ran depends on what level of form Cirrus Des Aigles ran to today. Having watched him several times this year it is hard for me to accept he is still operating at the top of his game. My own feeling is that Farhh would have shown a clean pair of heels to Ruler Of The World on a faster surface and I said before the race that it didn’t look like many would really relish the conditions. Mukhadram had two withering battles with Al Kazeem on fast ground and it looks very much as if both horses have left their best form well behind them since.
After Ruler Of The World ran poorly in the Irish Derby the stable talked about him not staying and mooted a potential drop in trip. It took them a bit of time to do so and perhaps it has helped him that they finally gave him a chance over 10f. For me he might be a horse who falls between two stools, not quite effective enough at the mile and a half trip, and vulnerable to a rival with more pace at 10f. I was on him at 25/1 for the Derby and felt a little bit lucky to collect to be honest with you, as I believe it was a modest renewal of the race. The coin is in the air and it just comes down on the side of "not quite top class", for my money anyway.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Ruler Of The World has visited the track on seven occasions during his debut season.
He won the Epsom Derby a mere eight weeks after his debut and has now competed in three quality contests inside five weeks. One can argue that his poor run at the Curragh was due to fast ground, but many colts fail to find their form after Epsom and you have to admire his tenacity to recover twice this season.
He was unlucky not to beat Kizuna at Longchamp and, in a race that demands a particular set of attributes, came up short in the Arc. No shame in that – St Nicholas Abbey won six Group Ones in three different continents, yet was never suited by the Arc.
He pulled six lengths clear of some quality horses yesterday and was narrowly denied by a couple of older, more streetwise horses who are genuine top level performers on the world stage. Below is my opinion of the colt post-Arc:
He will always be vulnerable on fast ground against top quality opposition, but granted soft ground and / or a fast pace (always difficult to get both in the same race at the highest level) he could be dangerous.
He is exposed as not being a champion, but why knock an honest, top level performer who will certainly improve? The more I see him, the more I like him.
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