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- July 4, 2008 at 09:31 #171610
In my opinion there is "facts" and "opinion" and all of the above are opinions.That is my opinion.And that is a fact.
put very well
July 4, 2008 at 12:40 #171663In my opinion there is "facts" and "opinion" and all of the above are opinions.That is my opinion.And that is a fact.
Very good andy.
Apologies as last night my opinions were facts through having one too many. I am not singling Hughes out when I say he cant judge pace as there are plenty of big name jocks who are equally as bad at it, Johnny Murtagh would be one.July 4, 2008 at 12:50 #171666In my opinion there is "facts" and "opinion" and all of the above are opinions.That is my opinion.And that is a fact.
Very good andy.
Apologies as last night my opinions were facts through having one too many. I am not singling Hughes out when I say he cant judge pace as there are plenty of big name jocks who are equally as bad at it, Johnny Murtagh would be one.i would disagree with you on that one!!!
July 4, 2008 at 13:01 #171669Hughes is down to ride FIFTEEN LOVE for Khalid Abdulla at sandown on saturday. (They should have stuck with mr dependable again). Very intresting though as both Queally and Durcan are at sandown on saturday.
Hmm?
What point are you making?
The horse was ridden by trainer Roger Charlton’s regular rider Drowne last time out. Drowne rides at Haydock on Saturday and Charlton has booked Hughes for 2 rides at Sandown, one owned by Abdulla and one not.
Hughes has ridden for Charlton regularly over the years , on both Abdulla and non Abdulla horses ( including a Group 1 win on Tante Rose). Charlton obviously feels happy to continue to book Hughes when Drowne is unavailable.Queally and Durcan ride for Cecil, including the Abdulla owned horses. No rider has any formal retainer with Abdulla anymore- why should Charlton want to use either when they don’t ride his horses?
July 4, 2008 at 14:21 #171686IMO johnny murtagh for all his strengths is not a great judge of pace. He galloped adored into the ground from the front at epsom and turned the race into a sloggathon. He rode his 1000 gns mounts (who werent that great anyway) way too far off the pace for them to have any chance.
We can all talk about the horses he won on, henrythenavigator is the best miler around at the minute and he was simply ridden for speed in all his races and won by that style of running. Soldier Of Fortune was ridden prominently with two stablemates being ridden well out in front of him, none of those rides IMO needed him to show great judgement of pace, indeed the horses were just so far better on the days that there was plenty of leyway . Twice in Irish Classics now he has been beaten by a better judged heffernan ride, on horses he has opted against.
Johnny Murtagh is a good jockey and a nice bloke but, like hughes he doesnt have a clock in his head.
Ref fifteen love-I was under the impression that Abdulla had cut all ties with hughes, and it was strange to me that he was riding for him again on saturday when Durcan who appears to have been riding most of horses lately, was also at that meeting.
July 4, 2008 at 14:42 #171693My point is not that Adored should have won fiefox or even that she had any chance of winning. My point is that he picked her and rode her in a manner with which she had no chance whatsoever (through poor judgement of pace) and in that I think she is a good example.
Septimus IMO is no mug of a horse, and has always hadthe look of a good horse about him, he is bred to stay very well and does so. High Chaparral was hardly a mug either.
To qualify IMO to be a good judge of pace in my book you have to be able to do it week in week out, the only jockey I have seen who does it with precision week in week out and more specifically at the top grade, is currently on an 18 month ban.
July 4, 2008 at 15:06 #171700My point is not that Adored should have won fiefox or even that she had any chance of winning. My point is that he picked her and rode her in a manner with which she had no chance whatsoever (through poor judgement of pace) and in that I think she is a good example.
Septimus IMO is no mug of a horse, and has always hadthe look of a good horse about him, he is bred to stay very well and does so. High Chaparral was hardly a mug either.
To qualify IMO to be a good judge of pace in my book you have to be able to do it week in week out, the only jockey I have seen who does it with precision week in week out and more specifically at the top grade, is currently on an 18 month ban.
could easily been riding to instructions!!!!!
still think your way of the mark with Murtagh but each to their own….
July 4, 2008 at 18:03 #171751Didnt back adored (admittedly did have her in one of a few little rev f/cs but not for much). For the record I dont actually back jockeys, I back horses, but I do notice when jockeys are off, and in what ways I dont have to wait for the jockey to become unpopular.
Pocket talk it is not, but if that is the whole basis of your argument then work away.
No doubt you just think Murtagh is absolutely flawless in everyway possible, AOBs training counts for very little and Thierry henry was amazing at heading the ball. And of course horses who are reading these pages would be offended to hear people calling them stupid.
As batman says each to their own Firefox.
July 5, 2008 at 20:37 #171899Anyway, back to Richard Hughes. What a rubbish ride he gave Firestreak in the 5.05 at Sandown today. It was like he was half asleep as Ryan Moore crept up his outside and got first run and by the time the dopey sod woke up it was too late. I doubt Her Maj will be pleased. Neither am I (yes, pockets are talking).
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