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VC were the first to close my account in 2011
———————————————————From: Juliette – Contact Centre [mailto:accountqueries@vcint.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 08:40 AM
To: XXXX
Subject: Victor ChandlerDear Mr XXXX
We are contacting you today to advise that a business decision has been taken by our Senior Traders and I must inform you that betting Account Number 222896 has now been closed and no further business may be executed on your behalf.
The balance of this Account now stands at zero with no outstanding bets.
As explained in our Terms and Conditions, a Traders decision is final and will not be over turned.
We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your past custom.
Kind Regards
Juliette Gaffney
Contact Centre
Victor ChandlerI assume they don’t close dormant accounts blue, so you must have reached some sort of threshold for them to cancel you.
Seems like another part of the world where you can be cancelled for saying your piece, and cancelled if it’s too close to home.
In all both party’s are similar as they are there to shaft you!
I don’t know why they closed me but I prefer to be closed rather than restricted to pennies like BF Sports Book.
Wilts – with stanjames my two losing bets that led to them restricting me were about £50 each, so only a total of £100 i staked with them until restricted lol.
With SBK I did a £30 treble at odds of around 4/1 which won and they restricted me after that, had only had the account for a couple of days and placed a few £5 bets before the treble, think I was pretty much even with them before the treble came in.
888 I’m not properly restricted but they would only let me have £200 on constitution hill after Cheltenham last year, I’d assume most people would struggle to get more than that on too though?
The other accounts I can’t remember sadly it’s been too long, but I’ve very very rarely placed any bets bigger than that constitution hill one to give you an idea of my stake size.
apracing said “The £1.50 on a 66/1 shot will have been because of a win limit of £100”.
Ok, but 365 dont limit me on long shot e/w. I quite often do a fiver e/w on a 50/1, esp on the Flat, with 365. Channon’s Majestic a few months back was a great Saturday pick up.
Legend of Xanadu, at 33s, in October.
Rumi, 100s, e/w in The Arc.
Gata Ban last week at 33s.Since Cheltenham ’22 i havent even bothered with PP; their brash adverts, supposedly give the impression of a fashionable bookmaker to bet with, but, in reality, their restrictions are pants!
Some really interesting posts on here and I had a similar experience with bet365 Ian, trying my best to show certain behaviours but as soon as I hit a certain level the door was firmly shut in my face.
I wanted to ask that with all the chat of restrictions and folks being asked to provide evidence of earnings so they can continue gambling on horses/ sports. Does anyone know if companies like the online bingo sites (e.g. foxy bingo) or in the in person casinos (e.g. Grovesnor casinos) are also askign people for proof of earnings etc before people can gamble with them?
I have no exposure to either and wondered if anyone had heard of this? Surely if sports/ horse racing bettors are being questioned/ restricted in this way surely all forms of gambling should be?
I appreciate you have to be very clever to gamble on the stockmarket so this would never be restricted (tongue very much in cheek)
Not restriction-related but this seems the most suitable thread to post this in….
Just got in from work, checked my emailes and I’ve received an email from betfair saying I’m self-excluded until August 2024 and that the self-exclusion also stops me from using my skybet, paddypower and pokerstars accounts, wtf??? I’m assuming all Four are owned by Flutter Entertainment, but I have never self excluded myself from any these sites.
What on earth is going on? I now cant log in to my betfair, pokerstars or paddypower accounts and though I can log in to my skybet account I can’t use the live chat as it’s currently closed so will have to try seeing what they say on that tomorrow evening.
EDIT – just recieved another email from both pokerstars and betfair asking me to send them proof of funds containing copies of payslips and bank statements!! Screw that, I won’t even bother, thankfully I don’t have any open ante-post bets with these nosey clowns.
Over the weekend, Chezza’s lost BOG with one of the two remaining online bookies that will lay Chezza more than two chocolate hob nobs to one about anything.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I really think the writing is on the wall for racing now, if the bookmakers will not stand a bet from successful punters the markets will shrivel and eventually prices will be so short that the recreational punters will stop betting.
Old style bookies had the intelligence to accept bets from informed and good judges and used it to their advantage by spreading the bets among other firms.
Nowadays it’s all computer algorithms and the bean counters rule the roost. It all reminds me of the fable of the Oozlem Bird!
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysI think you overestimate people Purwell. The type of punters they want wouldn’t recognise a 150% book if it kicked them in the undercarriage.
I was a little bit irritated to receive an email from William Hill on Saturday, reminding me about their commitment to safer gambling and containing several links to helpful sites. It is about the third time this has happened.
I placed a few bets with Hills that day which made a net loss of £5.50. This is nowhere near the loss limit I have set for myself.
There is not much money in the account. I have mostly used it this jumps season to put on antepost bets for Cheltenham.
I would like to put some more money in before the festival starts but I wonder if Hills will ask for proof of income.
I also made a net loss of £17.50 with Betfred on Saturday but at least Uncle Fred left me alone!
This might be an unpopular view, but I think bookmakers know exactly what they’re doing.
Successful punters don’t add to either their profits or the Levy, in fact they reduce it.
A lot of people (usually the restricted) argue bookies are losing profit by doing this.
Really?
I think bookies know better how to maximise their profits than any punter outside their operation looking in does.
Same deal with people bemoaning trainers swerving the Clarence House and letting place prize money go begging.
Trainers understand the economics and the wider picture – a ruined handicap mark, a lost future gamble off the current mark.
Generally speaking those running a business understand it a lot better than those not running a business trying to tell them how they should be running their business – and there’s a lot of that about!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"It’s a fair point Ian, perhaps the restricted punters should set up a bookie that will lay any amount of money to anyone. I wonder how long it would last.
That’s ridiculous Cork, it’s like the barman handing me an AA leaflet along with my half pint of mild.
Exactly, Richard.
I might sound like a turkey voting for Christmas, because I’ve suffered legion restrictions myself.
But I like to think I live in the real world and I know no bookie will sit back and allow me to take money off them forever.
I certainly wouldn’t were I in their shoes.
It’s life.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Businesses are as you say in the, er, business of making money. Whatever you think of it, private companies are free to take or refuse business from anyone they choose (within the law).
Don’t get me wrong, some things bookies do are at best legally dubious but restricting winners or potential winners is not one of them. You may argue it’s morally wrong but there is unfortunately not a lot of money to be made behaving morally.
“That’s ridiculous Cork, it’s like the barman handing me an AA leaflet along with my half pint of mild.”
I suppose it might have been an automated email but what is the point of setting a loss limit if they are going to bother me every time I make a loss that is nowhere near it?
What makes it even more ridiculous is Hills often give me free bets, including one last Saturday!
How does that legendary beast the ‘pro punter’ get accommodated these days or, it would seem, anyone with the temerity to attempt staking more than a pony?
Exchanges? On-course?
Whatever, I’m rather glad I ceased betting some years ago. ‘Fun bets’ were never my idea of fun; and they seem all that’s available now, provided one rarely actually laughs all the way to Wetherspoons
That fleeting few years after the arrival of Betfair and the aboltion of betting tax around the turn of the millennium: we never had it so good
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