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Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot)

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  • #1651608
    Avatar photoBigG
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    You’re spot on Richard, it’s just hard hearing it from a relative. It
    drives me mad and even though I had some words, I’m not about to give
    it both barrels to a 73 yr old lady who, politics aside, is a decent
    soul.

    #1651617
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    The economy is arguably in a worse state now than it was last October during Liz Truss’s brief tenure as Prime Minister, in particular in terms of bond yields and gilts.

    Yet there does not appear to be any calls for Sunak to resign or any plots against him.

    Anyone might think the Establishment’s man is in Number 10 now, so there is no need to draw attention to the dire situation.

    #1651622
    mickeyjp
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    I’ve been too busy laughing my gonads off as the children squabble to post but here is my take on the whole squalid affair.
    Part one,the offences.
    Why anybody is surprised at what happened is baffling. Johnson and his lemmings do what posh boys always do. Entitled,arrogant,lacking in empathy or social awareness and generally behaving as the world is owned by them. My sons exam results are off the charts. His school enquired to see if he would be able to get into Oxford on a scheme with funding. He asked me what I thought and I said don’t touch it with a bargepole. He would hate it. He sees through bullshit quickly.
    The fact that the tories can’t see they did anything wrong tells you everything. Johnson and his cohorts were just useful idiots for the money men to get power and avoid paying the tax they would have had to pay had we stayed in the eu. It was power for Johnson and billions for his backers.
    Simple as that.
    The hurt he caused to hundreds of thousands of folk is raw and will never go away. Unless they cleanse the tory party of Johnson and those with him they will be in opposition for at least two terms.
    I know folk forget quickly but polls have shown this won’t go away much as the tories try and convince us watching you loved ones due alone didn’t matter. First rant over.

    #1651624
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    Part two, the effect on this country and democracy.
    While the covid effect may fade in time unfortunately Johnson and his backers have done lasting damage to the discourse in this great islands of ours. He has now got so many people mistrusting of institutions and thereby let his cohorts get away with all sorts of criminal behaviour. I dread to think how much has been siphoned from the country’s finances. The 39bn on useless masks I’m sure is the tip of the iceberg.
    He has split families communities and institutions by radicalising so many folk. I echo what has been said about relatives and neighbours who have suddenly spouted extreme views I never knew they had. Fortunately I can separate politics and still get on with these folk although two of my neighbours I was friendly with I now can’t talk to through fear of losing it.
    The fact that the bbc and channel 4 can’t tell the truth of how bad they are shows how much democracy has slipped.
    He has tapped into the dark side of most folks character which is there in most of us. Im just so saddened to see the lies of this govt backed by half the media. Had bercow still been speaker I fancy this wouldn’t be the case. I dread to think what politics will be like 20 years from now.

    #1651625
    mickeyjp
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    Part three. The effect of the youngsters and future homeowners. My two boys will be hopefully be houseowners in the next decade but this govt has shafted them big style. Houses were 2.7 times income when I bought the house I live in now. Its now 6.3 and rising and the interest rate increases means 1 to 2 million will be staying with their folks or renting for years before they can afford a house. With wages now down 30% in real terms too what a shitshow we have left the current generation. Plus of rampant inflation. The end of these barstewards can’t come quick enough. Thankfully this generation are seeing through them and the tories will be struggling to get a majority for decades to come.

    #1651627
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    Last part.
    The fracture of the tories. This was always going to happen. Europe has split them since heath took us into the common market.
    They have got 4 years more power but at what cost. Massive hopefully. The only good thing to happen is watching them squabble like the spoiled brats they are. Please can we get back to voting on issues that matter and look after our communities. If we continue on our current path this country won’t be a nice place to live. Rants over you will be glad to know.

    #1651640
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    Rant agreed with (apart from Ch4 News which I revere!). As a straight A student, my daughters school pushed her to apply for Oxbridge. Then, one night I went into her room and asked her how she’d feel if we dropped the idea and she replied that she would feel as if the weight if the world had been lifted from her shoulders. We realised that the school wanted it for their own prestige, not for her. When she eventually graduated and went into teaching ( now left: burned out and demoralised from lack of funding…) she said she only coped with working in inner city schools because she’d been to a comprehensive where she’d learned how to deal with people. As for dealing with people whose political opinions I loathe, listening to The Rest is Politics podcast has helped me with that with their ‘disagreeing agreeably’ approach and I’m now in contact with a couple of my oldest friends. I feel as if I’m living in some sort of political dystopian future, what with Johnson and the prospect of Trump standing for president again!

    #1651651
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    My brilliant ex-History/politics teacher wanted to put me up for Oxbridge….until he realised I was only a straight A student with him.

    I ended up going to Warwick.

    I think it’s sad when bright young people from State Education backgrounds decline the Oxbridge route as it just adds to the existing lack of meritocracy as public schools are dab hands at preparing students for Oxbridge bids, it’s a central plank of what they’re all about.

    That said, every individual must do what they’re comfortable with and if I’d at 18 ended up surrounded by privileged ex public school boys at Cambridge or Oxford it’s a shade of odds on I’d have murdered at least one of them before being remanded in custody.

    I’d probably be up for parole about now, actually.

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    #1651657
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    Shut down the economy for over a year.

    Print money on an epic scale.

    Put the money into people’s bank accounts but they have nowhere to spend it.

    Open up again and then rampant inflation happens.

    Gosh, who could ever have predicted that would happen? ;-)

    #1651658
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    And they were meant to be the best party to run the economy. Always been a myth. Labour in the 70s undone by the price of oil skyrocketing. The banks crashing did for brown yet even after black Wednesday the tories somehow weren’t useless at running the economy. Utterly bonkers.

    #1651715
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    The Tories are the masters of the ” boom and bust ” economy , Maggie def not immune from it , I don’t care what Sid said

    #1651716
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    Who is Sid?

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #1651719
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    “And they were meant to be the best party to run the economy. Always been a myth.”

    Indeed it has. But if you repeat a lie often enough, people start to believe it…especially when they’re too stupid and/or lazy to conduct their own research.

    #1651721
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    From Norman Lamont to Kwasi Kwarteng it’s an unedifying roll of honour among these true blue architects of fiscal catastrophe.

    Labour might arguably be no better, but they’d struggle to produce anyone who was worse.

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    #1651740
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    “Who is Sid?”

    The unseen character in the adverts about the privatisation of British Gas?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nedVpG-GjkE

    #1651743
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    I don’t believe the Conservative Party is much good at running the economy, or much else. But let’s not kid ourselves Labour has been any better.

    Wilson had to devalue the pound in the late 1960s. Callaghan and Healey had to call in the IMF in the 1970s. In fact, due to the terms demanded by the IMF, Callaghan’s government is the only one in modern British history to have implemented actual spending cuts. Conservative governments claim they have but they did not. Under Cameron’s so called Austerity, the total national debt was far higher when he left office.

    It might finally dawn on the public that absolutely none of these people know what they are doing. Their only skill is in self promotion. Yet they are still spoken to as though they are experts and treated with an absurd degree of sycophancy by the media.

    #1651745
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    “Yet they are still spoken to as though they are experts and treated with an absurd degree of sycophancy by the media.”

    The media’s role is to brainwash the electorate into voting for the preferred candidate(s) of those who own the media.

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