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April 27, 2008 at 10:49 #160166AnonymousInactive
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Just my opinion, but anyone daft enough to ring a hare-brained bimbo for racing tips deserves everything they get.
April 27, 2008 at 10:52 #160167Leave Thommo out of it.
April 27, 2008 at 14:55 #160213Hope you made it pay DJ- I was slightly in front until yesterday when the wheels fell off spectacularly….
Tom Segull must have been on the sauce this weekend tipping that Last Emperor at Navan- have a look at his last run on ATR and tell me this horse is genuine…April 27, 2008 at 15:30 #160216Don’t like this kind of talk.
Zoe Birds marriage is her affair, what has it to do with racing?
Everyone’s private life is their own, I know some personal stuff about one prominent trainers background but would not dream of putting it on here.I agree, Zoe is not the best form student. But she is employed to be a presenter who knows a bit about racing / horses, not a form expert.
Zoe, like Alice, Emma, even Tommo (ooohh that last one was hard to write) are good at presenting racing, they are not and should not be judged as racing "experts".
Ginge
Value Is EverythingApril 27, 2008 at 15:54 #160223ohhh just seen the comments on here, about me?! he he made my year let alone day. Printing it out to keep forever haha thanks Bless you ha.
Did Zoe Bird really have a tipping line?April 27, 2008 at 22:39 #160282Yes im sure i saw an advert for Zoey Bird tipping line – but who can blame her – it seems many of the media pundits are at it and guess its quite lucrative as long as their are people willing to pay for it! Not really sure she is any better or worse than some other pundits but always think she has very good personality on ATR for interviewing etc as well as being nice to look at !!!!!!!!!
April 28, 2008 at 00:21 #160290I agree, Zoe is not the best form student. But she is employed to be a presenter who knows a bit about racing / horses, not a form expert.
Zoe, like Alice, Emma, even Tommo (ooohh that last one was hard to write) are good at presenting racing, they are not and should not be judged as racing "experts".
Ginge
Ginge
Largely agree with what you say, but if someone puts themselves forwards as a tipster they are fair game for giving crap tips.
I have not watched ATR much for a year so, but Zoe certainly used to seem to make out she was some sort of form student – which appeared to equate to tipping the favourite with the 2nd favourite as a danger and the 3rd favourite as an e/w tip, with a final fall back of "we mentioned the winner" having run through the entire field.
April 28, 2008 at 00:42 #160292AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
Ginge
Largely agree with what you say, but if someone puts themselves forwards as a tipster they are fair game for giving crap tips.
I have not watched ATR much for a year so, but Zoe certainly used to seem to make out she was some sort of form student – which appeared to equate to tipping the favourite with the 2nd favourite as a danger and the 3rd favourite as an e/w tip, with a final fall back of "we mentioned the winner" having run through the entire field.
Plus, of course, 99% of her ‘wisdom’ being drawn directly from the RP’s spotlight summaries.
April 28, 2008 at 10:05 #160316I agree, Zoe is not the best form student. But she is employed to be a presenter who knows a bit about racing / horses, not a form expert.
Zoe, like Alice, Emma, even Tommo (ooohh that last one was hard to write) are good at presenting racing, they are not and should not be judged as racing "experts".
Ginge
Ginge
Largely agree with what you say, but if someone puts themselves forwards as a tipster they are fair game for giving crap tips.
I have not watched ATR much for a year so, but Zoe certainly used to seem to make out she was some sort of form student – which appeared to equate to tipping the favourite with the 2nd favourite as a danger and the 3rd favourite as an e/w tip, with a final fall back of "we mentioned the winner" having run through the entire field.Fair enough comment, but if someone asked you to front a tipping line, paying you ££££ to do it, would you refuse on the grounds you are not really a tipster?
Ginge
Value Is EverythingApril 28, 2008 at 11:09 #160323Zoe Bird writes a column in The Sun every Saturday. One week she led off on the lovely new escalators at Ascot. No more comment needed really.
April 28, 2008 at 13:10 #160344Just my opinion, but anyone daft enough to ring a hare-brained bimbo for racing tips deserves everything they get.
Isn’t that insulting bimbo’s, see the rabbit resemblance though!
April 28, 2008 at 14:50 #160364Cant make up my mind if my favourite female pundit moment was La Balding interviewing Dettori in a mini skirt at Ascot a few years back or at Cheltenham when Alice Plunkett said when watching a huge chocolate fondue ” I’m going to stick my face right in that”…..
April 28, 2008 at 15:04 #160368You’ve been reading too many Splosh mags Bucket! Keep your fantacies to yourself mate.
We welcome all pervs on this site.Ginge
Value Is EverythingApril 28, 2008 at 15:19 #160376Do they still make that?
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April 28, 2008 at 15:33 #160380Welcome to TRF, bucketnut.
Colin
April 29, 2008 at 11:49 #160569It seems to me the two most underrated pundits on tv must be Gary O’Brien and David Duggan, who cover the Irish racing on ATR. I pick my own selections but I always like to hear them leaning in the same direction.
April 29, 2008 at 12:42 #160581Everyone is wrong most of the time when it comes to picking winners, and everyone gets egg on their face sometimes.
Anyway, what’s more important for a pundit than picking winners is being able to comment sensibly on what is taking place and both of them are very good in that department. O’Brien is a sharp-eyed race reader and has a sound knowledge of the Irish form book while Duggan’s forte is spotting horses with potential.
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