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    Captain Robbo
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    The information that organisations are giving out to punters is at an all time low.
    Looking at the first race from Chester today as a great example of pure lazy ness and utter cluelessness from those who are allegedly in place to help the punter:

    Roman Dragon Made all on nursery debut here (6f) and should have the speed for 5f; strong claims

    The above comment is from the racing post card. Roman Dragon has NEVER ran in a nursery, he certainly didn’t make all on his nursery debut at this track last time as claimed.

    Odds checker Verdict: Roman Dragon arrives here seeking the hat-trick after a brace of victories over this course and distance.

    Roman Dragon has never recorded a brace of victories over this course and distance. This is in fact his first run at 5f.

    Most betting sites will use these quotes as the form guide for the mug punters who use these comments as a basis for their bet that they researched 30 seconds before placing it.

    Talk about mugging off the public. I could find people in The Lounge who could do a better job than these so called experts who must surely be taking brown envelopes off the bookmaking industry to publish these lies. Can’t believe this level of stupidity is not done on purpose.

    Very strange how the experts are giving out false information to make the chance of Roman Dragon seem greater than it actually is. For me Devious Angel is by far and away the likeliest winner of this race but that’s irrelevant what’s relevant is the blatantly false info these people are allowed to give to the gullible.

    People will be backing this favourite today believing that he has won twice over CD and that he has already won a nursery.

    What they are in fact getting is a horse who has never raced over this trip and is running for the first time in a handicap. The horse has questions to answer on both levels today. May well be the winner but again that isn’t relevant.

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    Avatar photoThe Tatling Cheekily
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    Hmm. That is shoddy work Robbo I agree.

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    Avatar photoIanDavies
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    I’m knocking on (58) and an ex racing journalist myself, and that’s the ideal recipe for being a cantankerous old git for who the current younger generation of racing journalists can do nothing right.

    But while I independently make my own mind up and the only people I might take a bit of notice of are actual professional punters I know, on the rare occasions I hear or read media punditry it’s mostly poor.

    In broadcasting, apart from Eddie Fremantle I am struggling to think of an opinion I am interesting in hearing/reading.

    And most of the Racing Post stuff is dire.

    When the paper launched Spotlight Editor was ex-Timeform Graham Dench.

    But they pensioned him off I hear during cutbacks and that’s a colossal loss as he set high standards for himself and his team.

    The laziness now among some is breathtaking.

    Some brazenly just refer to the RPR without having apparently done any research of their own.

    Standards at Timeform have fallen too because the summaries of races I occasionally casually glance at on Betfair often don’t even scratch the surface of what a race is about.

    But you know what?

    I’m GLAD.

    I don’t want even more bone idle punters being led in the right direction.

    I’m happy for the lazy pundits to lead the even lazier punters as it makes the market for those of us who will put the hard work in looking for edges.

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    Avatar photoTriptych
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    Totally agree Robbo and Ian..the lazy punters certainly got hit yesterday at HQ :good:

    At Newmarket in the first race Calm Skies the 2/5 favourite was beaten for the 3rd time over the same distance at the same course…she clearly doesn’t get up the hill as both times she has been beaten half a furlong from home and she needs to try 6 furlongs.

    This is what Timeform View wrote in the racecard as a guide to form readers.

    Promising sort, second of 9 in maiden over C&D 21 days ago, looking the likely winner until headed late in. Likely to improve again and should take plenty of stopping.

    She had run in a Class 4 maiden and then tried in a Class 3 same C&D
    July Course 7 furlongs..both times she faded as she hit the uphill finish why would she suddenly take plenty of stopping nothing had changed except she had less to beat in a 5 runner field where her biggest rival and I thought by looking at her the likely winner
    Feel The Moment, was withdrawn at the start (took a tumble). Horse ok I believe

    Calm Skies doesn’t get 7f on the July Course :unsure: if they had dropped her back to 6 furlongs then I might have expected her to be odds on but yesterday punters were just led up the garden path..bookies benefit.

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