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  • #393664
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    Brilliant win from Nacarat, he looks as good as ever. Perhaps he is even more reliant on his ideal conditions nowadays, hence the ‘win or bust’ look to his form. Give him good ground and a flat track (undulations give him sore joints) and zooommmm!

    I said he would be likely to be placed if at his best, but could not see Nacarat defying his mark. I’m delighted to be proved wrong though. Great stuff.

    Decent run from Planet Of Sound too. He looked a little flat though, travelling well then plugging on at one pace.

    Royal Charm

    was more lively than he has been this season, too and went into my notebook.

    edited for typos

    #393665
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    I’d be amazed if Nacarat wasn’t beaten by at least 15 lengths tomorrow. Gone at the game.

    This goes to show you don’t know as much as you think :wink:

    Horses for courses anyone? :wink:

    Zip, there’s no need for him to target me so obviously in 2 separate posts, especially given the colossal amount of free data and research I post on here. I don’t need to post anything. I could happily keep everything a secret but I’m happy to share my info so others can benefit.

    In this instance I was monumentally wrong. No problem, I always put my hands up when I’m wrong.

    #393668
    Getzippy
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    That was a very reasonable/moderate reply, Zark. I thought I was in for a virtual rumble – *damn you, Sir*! :P

    I agree that we are all in this together and it’s great that there is a sense of community where peeps share their efforts and opinions.

    Now, if anyone would like to point out any of my flaws, I have a postage stamp and pen ready for you :twisted:

    Zip

    #393669
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Lol, I may be direct and to the point in my posts, but you’d be amazed how polite I actually am, the total opposite of that James Whatshisfacefashionroyalascotbbcbloke :)

    #393681
    Avatar photoBigG
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    Eclipse First…..well done my friend, you’re assessment was spot on. I didn’t see Nacarat coming back to the form he had shown a year ago….but he did that and more. I hold my hands up when I get it wrong.

    Grey Dolphin wrote…

    My ew bet Consigliere just couldn’t go the pace on that ground but plugged on for 4th.

    I was with you in hoping Consigliere would do us both a turn, but I view his running slightly differently. It’s not that he couldn’t go the pace, it’s more that his jumping was sloppy after the first few fences, and before the halfway mark, it was as bad as I’ve seen him in that he was losing ground at fences around that time of the race. He fell away tamely and I stopped looking for him, I was so sure he was out of it and I half expected he may get pulled up. I was astonished at the end to see him running into 4th place.

    Nacarat back to his best, I don’t think it would have made any difference to the result (the winner) but if he hadn’t had a really poor patch, which he is not normally guilty of, he would have been a good deal closer.

    I think the one thing to take from his run, other than he will need to sort out the ropey jumping, is that he does get 3m on good ground. To be running on at the end, after losing his place so badly, means I will be giving him another chance.

    He ran well in the Byrne Group Plate at the festival last year, 4th behind 3 horses all of whom he was giving 1st 4lbs to. Whatever he runs in this year, he might be worth an e/w as he will be a good price (presently over 25-1 in all 4 he’s entered in).
    So do we give him another chance?

    #393691
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    On a going day Consigliere usually travels well. When he doesn’t want to know, he doesn’t want to know. He’s not particularly trustworthy. As per usual in 2012, my each way bet finishes one place out of the frame and the win bet is second. :lol:

    Well done to those who kept the faith in Nacarat. Tom George is in great form. Good ride by Brennen too, Nacarat doesn’t always find much off the bridle and allowing Hectors in front probably rekindled the fight in him.

    Value Is Everything
    #393692
    Avatar photoBigG
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    I certainly know how you feel Gingertipster….I get days like that too.

    Hector’s Choice ran a good race, and looked to be the most likely winner at one point, until thumping the 3rd last. Certainly stopped his momentum but not sure it would have made a difference with the result.

    A case of close….but no cigar. :cry:

    #393695
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    My only other bet yesterday was Une Artiste each way. Again 4th. Having forsaken one Triumph ante-post bet Baby Mix after his temperamental display last time. And then watched my other Triumph bet Grumeti go unbacked and pxxx in in the Dovecote.

    At least I can look foreward to having 10/1 and 12/1 the two Triumph favourites. About time I had some good news on that front too, after Grandouet and Fingal Bay!

    Value Is Everything
    #393707
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    I’d be amazed if Nacarat wasn’t beaten by at least 15 lengths tomorrow. Gone at the game.

    This goes to show you don’t know as much as you think :wink:

    Horses for courses anyone? :wink:

    Zip, there’s no need for him to target me so obviously in 2 separate posts, especially given the colossal amount of free data and research I post on here. I don’t need to post anything. I could happily keep everything a secret but I’m happy to share my info so others can benefit.

    In this instance I was monumentally wrong. No problem, I always put my hands up when I’m wrong.

    Only a bit of banter mate, not out to get you!

    #393716
    Avatar photoBigG
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    If it makes you feel any better Gingertipster, the only other bet I had yesterday was Posh Bird in the Eider. I really fancied her,and after the last fence I still thought she was going to win, only to be collared in the last 50yards.

    That’s racing for you. Still waiting to fill my Cheltenham satchel….. It’s not looking too good at the moment :(

    #393735
    Avatar photoBigG
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    Well blow me over !!!!

    Gingertipster, In my last post to you, I joined you in both of us crying into our glass. However……I’ve just logged into my email, to find an email from Paddy Power telling me I’m getting my money back :D

    It seems that PP had an offer that if your horse was second in the eider, you got your stake back.

    I know it might feel a bit like rubbing salt in your wounds….sorry about that….but I just had to tell someone. It was almost better than getting a winner.

    Maybe I can try for that Cheltenham satchel again.

    #393768
    Getzippy
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    That Jameswhatshisface"posh"blokeRoyalAscot really is a "

    character

    ."

    No doubt we’ll give him a good bitching on here come the meeting.

    As for Posh Bird, I watched that race and thought it wouldn’t win even when it hit the front. I’m not saying it doesn’t put it all in…but surely (for whatever reason) it is soft in a finish, no matter what the distance.

    Zip

    #393820
    Avatar photoBigG
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    Well I’m not quite sure what race you were watching Zip. I thought she traveled well throughout, the jockey pressed the button (maybe a tad too early…. but perhaps not) and was basically beaten by, according to people who know a lot more about horses than I do, a very well handicapped Irish horse that was gambled as if he were.

    After 4M 1f, she gets beaten in the last 50 yards….with the next nearest horse 11 lengths back. If that makes her soft, there must have been a lot of softies behind her too. I think we have to hand credit to Portrait King and Denis O’Regan for running a cracking race and timing it just right.

    I think the summery in the RP is fair…..

    Held up in rear, smooth headway and in touch before 20th, led on bit 2 out, soon ridden, 2 lengths up last, edged left run-in, headed and no extra last 50yds

    She didn’t seem "soft in a finish" when she won the North Yorkshire Grand National over 3m 6f in January…..

    Held up in rear, headway 15th, chased leaders 18th, went 2nd approaching 3 out, led 2 out, pushed out (op 10-1)

    It’s all about opinions, I respect yours, I just don’t agree with it.

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